Singapore Night GP 2008

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Post Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:06 pm

http://5x5m.com/lp/263/grandprix.htm

a bit of fun by McLaren :lol:
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Post Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:27 pm

Chuckle chuckle.
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Post Tue Sep 16, 2008 5:51 pm

a very enlightening peace indeed
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Post Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:45 am

McLaren fit headlights to their car ahead of the Singapore GP!

http://www.forumula1.net/2008/f1/f1-new ... gapore-gp/
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Post Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:02 am

hahaha, Classic

And they say mclaren does not have a sence of humour!
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:46 am

Much like Valencia, this is another tight street circuit that will demand maximum downforce, brakes, and engine cooling setup for the hot and humid weather conditions. The main differences being the artifical track lighting, counter clockwise track direction, & 8pm race start time. I sincerely hope this won't be another boring processional race. [-o< After seeing the European race, I have a feeling this street circuit will not provide much passing oportunity. :x
My crystal ball shows a bunch of cars piling up at the start at Turn 3 and the following top 3 order.
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 2:53 am

How will F1 deal with photographers and flash photography at night for the Singapore race? For the night Champ Car race in Cleveland I think flash photography was very limited if not banned.

During a twilight Rolex race at MidOhio we had photographers using flash photography at Turn 8 where they can stand within 3-4 meters of the cars. I was not wild and crazy about the flash photography but it was okay with Race Control.
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:24 am

puttenham wrote:How will F1 deal with photographers and flash photography at night for the Singapore race? For the night Champ Car race in Cleveland I think flash photography was very limited if not banned.

During a twilight Rolex race at MidOhio we had photographers using flash photography at Turn 8 where they can stand within 3-4 meters of the cars. I was not wild and crazy about the flash photography but it was okay with Race Control.


I'm only speaking of my experience, but when I race at night I never noticed someone taking photos with a flash. It's an issue if you have your eyes adjusted to complete darkness, but with a well lit track at night you'll more than likely never notice.
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:10 pm

Ray wrote:
puttenham wrote:How will F1 deal with photographers and flash photography at night for the Singapore race? For the night Champ Car race in Cleveland I think flash photography was very limited if not banned.

During a twilight Rolex race at MidOhio we had photographers using flash photography at Turn 8 where they can stand within 3-4 meters of the cars. I was not wild and crazy about the flash photography but it was okay with Race Control.


I'm only speaking of my experience, but when I race at night I never noticed someone taking photos with a flash. It's an issue if you have your eyes adjusted to complete darkness, but with a well lit track at night you'll more than likely never notice.

They won't be affected by flash fotography because they have different vision to us:

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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:28 pm

If the night time schedule brings cooler temperatures, and a possibility for rain, I don't even want to think about the probable chances of Ferrari under-performing once again. Given how long they have been suffering from not being able to keep tyres in the operating window during cooler ambient temps- caused by rain- , how can they continue without having solved that specific problem? But at least even if it is cooler than normal - but without rain- they are still capable of extracting optimum performance from the F2008, or so I've understood.

Anyways, Raikkonen has declared that "it will take a miracle, one that makes lightning strike twice" if he is to win the '08 DC.
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:47 pm

If the 2007 drama book should repeat with the champ aspirators all stumbling at the last races we need Toro Rosso to win another race, and some serious screw ups by Hamilton. Then Kubica can take a surprise WDC and Bernie will be happy. Some people think it is all manipulated so watch out for some mysterious malfunctions and steward decisions. :wink:
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:23 pm

WhiteBlue wrote:If the 2007 drama book should repeat with the champ aspirators all stumbling at the last races we need Toro Rosso to win another race, and some serious screw ups by Hamilton. Then Kubica can take a surprise WDC and Bernie will be happy. Some people think it is all manipulated so watch out for some mysterious malfunctions and steward decisions. :wink:


Are you implying a F1/WWE wrestling link!?!?!

And I thought that was only true with the US political parties!

Now, on topic:

If it rains, Vettel takes the race.

Tell me that the STR team hasn't had enough adrenaline to put in some excess overtime this week to try again...

But, as always, only time will tell what Singapore will bring!
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:26 pm

WhiteBlue wrote:If the 2007 drama book should repeat with the champ aspirators all stumbling at the last races we need Toro Rosso to win another race, and some serious screw ups by Hamilton. Then Kubica can take a surprise WDC and Bernie will be happy. Some people think it is all manipulated so watch out for some mysterious malfunctions and steward decisions. :wink:


Hehe, not that I would mind, but that would take that Kubica won every race from here on out, and Hamilton and Massa smashing into each other at every race.
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On the Singapore track; It worries me that the track has not been tested before.
Asphalt bight break up, lighting may turn off, fences might not withstand the impact of crashing cars...
Even cameras may be placed wrong, spectators may not get a clear view...
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:42 pm

Here's a pic of the reflective paint they plan to use:

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Interestingly, the line is on the sidewall, giving is also an idea of how next year's slicks will be marked.
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Post Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:26 pm

mx_tifosi wrote:

Given how long they have been suffering from not being able to keep tyres in the operating window during cooler ambient temps- caused by rain- , how can they continue without having solved that specific problem?


What was that quote in MotorSport attributed to a Ferrari engineer? Something very close to: "[Kimi and Felipe] are useless technically"

Personally, I miss the days of unlimited testing. Badoer and a hundred laps at an artificially dampened Fiorano might just turn things around. For those who think all the rules changes favor Ferrari - how many other F1 teams have two test tracks largely going to waste?
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