Truilli out at Toyota? Williams look to end Toyota deal?

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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:05 pm

Straight from Howett's mouth?

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 5816.shtml
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77894

Truilli would be smart to ask for an immediate release and offer his services to Ferrari for free
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:50 pm

Since Trulli says it's not about money, and his performance hasn't been too far from Glock in either way, I wonder if he led the team down a bad development path, wrecking their pre and early season momentum.
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 8:56 pm

I've said it before,

Nakajima in at Toyota?

  • He is part of the Toyota young driver development program.
  • Japanese driver in Japanese team.
  • Has spent a few seasons with Williams to gather experience.
  • Maturity level high enough for promotion to the Toyota squad?
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:05 pm

Seems like Scarbs was right...
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:40 pm

mx_tifosi wrote:I've said it before,

Nakajima in at Toyota?

  • He is part of the Toyota young driver development program.
  • Japanese driver in Japanese team.
  • Has spent a few seasons with Williams to gather experience.
  • Maturity level high enough for promotion to the Toyota squad?


goes in with the news that Williams is looking for new engine parner

http://en.f1-live.com/f1/en/headlines/n ... 2354.shtml
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77897

but it says the contract being broken is only allowed with Williams getting a free engine deal, that may rule out cosworth...

I really hope we to see the flywheel KERS on a Williams next year
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:53 pm

ISLAMATRON wrote:I really hope we to see the flywheel KERS on a Williams next year

How'd they package KERS (esp. flywheel, as you can't put it under radiator into sidepod) and full race distance fuel-tank?
I won't count on this.
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 9:57 pm

timbo wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:I really hope we to see the flywheel KERS on a Williams next year

How'd they package KERS (esp. flywheel, as you can't put it under radiator into sidepod) and full race distance fuel-tank?
I won't count on this.


maybe they will put it in the same place everyone else will be putting that extra 15kg of ballast to raise their min weight to 620kg. I know the density isnt the same and so the ballast will take much less volume, but I dont think they will have any trouble fitting it.
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Post Sat Aug 22, 2009 11:28 pm

They will have the 15kg of ballast, plus the fact there is no batteries in the Flybrid system.
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Post Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:12 am

To the "Nakajima to Toyota" crowd:

Why?

Look at this season - the performance gap between Rosberg and Nakajima is even larger than that of Alonso/Piquet Jr.

The Williams car has proven itself to be superior to the Renault, and despite this, Nakajima has performed worse in his Williams than Piquet Jr. did in his Renault.

I get it, he brings money to the team, but given Toyota's early season, they are able to perform well...what good is a bit of money coming in if it equates to only one driver who can finish in the points?

I put Toyota in the same boat as Honda. They needed some serious results to justify their existence, and they need to start cutting costs. One, at the cost of another, will do nothing for their survivability. Nakajima simply isn't a solution to the team's problems, under any situation.
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Post Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:54 am

Toyota is pulling out of F1, can't everyone see that?
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Post Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:31 am

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Post Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:33 am

xpensive wrote:Toyota is pulling out of F1, can't everyone see that?


Strange that Howett is so rosy on keeping Glock around then...maybe he'll get promoted to salesman at a Toyota dealership then? :lol:
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Post Sun Aug 23, 2009 3:58 am

The FOZ wrote:To the "Nakajima to Toyota" crowd:

Why?


If you havent noticed Nakajima is Japanese
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Post Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:02 am

ISLAMATRON wrote:
The FOZ wrote:To the "Nakajima to Toyota" crowd:

Why?


If you havent noticed Nakajima is Japanese


Is that your best answer to my post?

What is your deficiency that you feel the need to belittle rather than have an intelligent discussion?
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Post Sun Aug 23, 2009 4:13 am

The FOZ wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:If you havent noticed Nakajima is Japanese


Is that your best answer to my post?

What is your deficiency that you feel the need to belittle rather than have an intelligent discussion?


Nobody is belittling you, calm down... just pointing something very obvious out that you failed to mention... If they are going to be slow they might as well do it with a Japanese driver and have him bring in money rather than pay Truilli a whole heap. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Also I think you fail to recognize how bad of luck Kazoo has had this year, he has speed, he just needs to get his racecraft together(Isnt that what everyone said about Sato), I personally think he has some talent, the question is if any team is patient enough to hone it.
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