http://f1numbers.wordpress.com/2009/12/ ... test-laps/
Seems a bit harsh but I see your point - the discussion of comparing between teams has been brought up before on other forums...ISLAMATRON wrote:worthless actually...
It would have been better to each driver's fastest lap over the entire weekend and compare it to his teammates and from that percentage compare overall.
Race fast laps ill be much more meaningful next year when everybody is on the same fuel strategy(although not necessarily on the same tire strategy)
plus all Q's will be on empty tanks, but even still the differences in cars should be taken into account.
I'll look into that later, cheersmep wrote:Hey seems like you would be the right person to make a chart about the lap times over the years.
It seems like the people here are just guessing a few hard facts would be nice to see.
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I guess you could say it's more of a snapshot then - just to see how each driver fares... I would say that this isn't as important as finishing positions or race consistency (which will be coming soonmarcush. wrote:this one is a very intersting means of comparing driver performance.
but as ever there are the same difficulties as with qualy times :you are hurting those who opt for a strategies sacrificing outright speed for end result.
villeneuve was a good example of a guy who seemed to like strategy starting with a big fuelload and stopping less than others ...so no way his speed would or should be equal to those stopping more often and always run on more fresh rubber or less fuel.
Of course these tactics seldom go your ways and maybe it reflects also on the results achieved ...but there is a point to this.
) No harshness intendedrubbergoat wrote:Seems a bit harsh but I see your point - the discussion of comparing between teams has been brought up before on other forums...
I have listed all the drivers individually so you can always compare those
One question - how do you propose to take the differences between cars into account? I can see that you could do it with Fisi this year, but even then you have to factor in circuit types. Any ideas?
//Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)
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Right... fair enough. I don't want to break the rules but I thought it would be interesting to discuss my results here as the blog is technically minded. However, would it be better if I posted my results and a summary here and then link to the blog posts for further info? Because if that is the case I will be happy to do that instead in future...Fil wrote:interesting that the mods are allowing these threads advertising another website when a previous user had his on-topic posts, advertising his USF1 blog, deleted for doing the exact same.
For the record i do actually visit this site from time to time and do enjoy the detail it takes to the numbers, but share similar concerns to Islam. Feels like some of the analysis is done just for the sake of it.
Thanks mate. I'll keep that in mind later on if I decide to take a look at this again. To be honest, I am not paying too much attention to fastest laps when evaluating driver performance compared to the other categories I will evaluate (average finishing position, qualifying, consistency) because I don't see fastest laps as that important and there are so many problems comparing 'like for like'.ISLAMATRON wrote:No harshness intendedrubbergoat wrote:Seems a bit harsh but I see your point - the discussion of comparing between teams has been brought up before on other forums...
I have listed all the drivers individually so you can always compare those
One question - how do you propose to take the differences between cars into account? I can see that you could do it with Fisi this year, but even then you have to factor in circuit types. Any ideas?
//Gavin Brown (RubberGoat)
http://f1numbers.wordpress.com/
Outright speed is probably the easiest driver quality that the difference between the car can be taken into account.
Take each driver's fastest lap of the weekend(usually Q2, but sometmes not) add them up over the season and divide by the total of his teams' fastest lap.(if 1 drivers sets them all(like Alonso in '09 then his percentage will be 100).
So lets say the total for RBR this year was 1000 seconds and BGP was 990, normalize the times, and compare between the drivers.
of course this makes several assumptions that dont allways hold up... such as the faster driver extracted 100% from the car(we now that this is not true), and that a car's performance is not track sensitive, also not true... this effects the analysis because the track times are not equal. But those are the obstacles of any comparisons of this type.
hey, if they're letting you do it this way, then keep on motoring on i say! they'll let u kno otherwise i guess, and at worst merge it all together.rubbergoat wrote:Right... fair enough. I don't want to break the rules but I thought it would be interesting to discuss my results here as the blog is technically minded. However, would it be better if I posted my results and a summary here and then link to the blog posts for further info? Because if that is the case I will be happy to do that instead in future...Fil wrote:interesting that the mods are allowing these threads advertising another website when a previous user had his on-topic posts, advertising his USF1 blog, deleted for doing the exact same.
