Alonso 2010 Champion?

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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:22 pm

OK

I wasn't trying to start a battle, this was just my opinion, and i wanted to see how others felt about it. Your right, as far as we know, maranello will burn to the ground and ferrari wont even get a car on the track this year lol, i'm 23 and i've watched f1 as long as i can remember. I knew when alonso drove for minardi that if he ever got with a decent team, he would be the next schumi.

Now as far as talent goes, yes he has talent, but hell even if your sitting in as a reserve for force india, etc., your a great driver or you wouldn't be there. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, i just feel that there is a very strong chance alonso will get the title.
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:42 pm

joeyg02

Alonso 2010 Champion?


Go and beg the Boss forgiveness while you still have your testicles!

How can Alonso win when he was BLOWN AWAY by a Rookie in the same machine?

A MERE ROOKIE!!!!
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:44 pm

we shall see :)
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:51 pm

joeyg02 wrote:... i just feel that there is a very strong chance alonso will get the title.


That is obvious as the betting community all over the world gives him lowest odds. You could have said so and we would have agreed with you.
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 7:18 pm

joeyg02 wrote:OK

I wasn't trying to start a battle, this was just my opinion, and i wanted to see how others felt about it. Your right, as far as we know, maranello will burn to the ground and ferrari wont even get a car on the track this year lol, i'm 23 and i've watched f1 as long as i can remember. I knew when alonso drove for minardi that if he ever got with a decent team, he would be the next schumi.

Now as far as talent goes, yes he has talent, but hell even if your sitting in as a reserve for force india, etc., your a great driver or you wouldn't be there. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, i just feel that there is a very strong chance alonso will get the title.



You may not of ment to start a battle, but by calling other users idiots and dumbasses didnt really help your situation.

I do have my own drivers/teams that I would like to see win the championship but thats merely based on my preference to them and not their current competitiveness. Any prediction at the moment i think will be too early until we see all the 2010 cars and how truely competitive they are at Bahrain......Whatever happens I think we're due one hell of a season and I definatly cannot wait :D :D :D
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 8:29 pm

@ Joey2go, Gambling is a dangerous thing, :lol: there is no tangible evidence to indicate, so far, Alonso has anymore of a chance than Massa or any of the other drivers.

2010 wont be as easy for him as 2005 and 2006; i think we all can agree on that.
Alonso would surprise me if he manages to do the impossible and beat the same man he lost to in an equal car. Alonso couldn't manage larva stage Lewis, how much so will he manage the a fully metamorphosed BOSS ? :mrgreen:

I can't blame you still. In the same way you think we are going to see a fully unleashed Alonso, others are thinking the same about the beasts that are Shumacher and Hamilton.

2010 will be very revealing, :wink:
For Sure!!
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:08 pm

well , I hadn't seen the frank williams quote until ~it appeared in this thread , but that has little to do with the odds offered to the punters on various drivers , even though frank clearly knows more about racing drivers than the rest of us put together !

the fact of the matter is that the odds offered reflect the bookies assesment of the amount of money bet on them , and that has a large emotional element in it , in other words wishful thinking

so i think you will find that the shortest oddds on alonso emanate from spain , schu from germany , hamilton the uk etc ; a perfect 'book' will see the bookmaker win the same amount no matter who they pay out on , except when a long odds outsider wins when they make a killing as the odds are never as long as the sums bet , which is why they love outsiders winning ....button must have been a gift to them
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:45 pm

The world odds mix the books from the UK, Germany and Spain to one average set of decimal odds. And bookmakers just offer the odds in proportion to what people bet on the drivers with an arbitrage for the house. Thus you can say that the world odds represent the collective wisdom of the people who put money on drivers. My view is that this is certainly going to be more accurate than the single or collective wisdom of the forumers here. But thats only my two cents.
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Post Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:51 pm

Oh yes, if anybody doesn't know by now, Lewis is Frank William's favourite driver 8)

You see, even wily Old Frank knows who is going to win in 2010:

Who is your favourite driver?
Currently? Lewis Hamilton

Who will win the drivers' championship in 2010?
It's too difficult to call as we haven't seen the new cars. If I were to have a stab in the dark? Lewis


http://en.espnf1.com/williams/motorspor ... /3845.html
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Post Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:10 am

n smikle wrote:Oh yes, if anybody doesn't know by now, Lewis is Frank William's favourite driver 8)

You see, even wily Old Frank knows who is going to win in 2010:

Who is your favourite driver?
Currently? Lewis Hamilton

Who will win the drivers' championship in 2010?
It's too difficult to call as we haven't seen the new cars. If I were to have a stab in the dark? Lewis


http://en.espnf1.com/williams/motorspor ... /3845.html


If anything, this shows how much faith Old Frank has in his own team, car and drivers... :lol:
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Post Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:16 am

Joeyg02

Glad you came back to stick your feet back in the fire.

You need to have tough skin sometimes to get in the thick of things here, but when you sift through all the matter here, you find very quickly that there is a lot of substance in the mire.

Problem is most of us have been where you just were, and sifting for ages.

I got so fed up with only having conjecture I started reading Racecar Engineering and Racetech magazines just so I was not an opinionated buffoon. I still am one, but now I am a slightly informed opinionated buffoon.
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Post Mon Feb 08, 2010 12:51 am

n smikle wrote:Oh yes, if anybody doesn't know by now, Lewis is Frank William's favourite driver 8)

You see, even wily Old Frank knows who is going to win in 2010:

Who is your favourite driver?
Currently? Lewis Hamilton

Who will win the drivers' championship in 2010?
It's too difficult to call as we haven't seen the new cars. If I were to have a stab in the dark? Lewis


http://en.espnf1.com/williams/motorspor ... /3845.html


Frank must be getting old and senile because Lewis makes plenty of mistakes(refferring to your sig)... but when he doesnt he sure is spectacular. No doubt he makes so many mistakes because he pushes so damned hard all the time.
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Post Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:01 am

Sambo wrote:
joeyg02 wrote:OK

I wasn't trying to start a battle, this was just my opinion, and i wanted to see how others felt about it. Your right, as far as we know, maranello will burn to the ground and ferrari wont even get a car on the track this year lol, i'm 23 and i've watched f1 as long as i can remember. I knew when alonso drove for minardi that if he ever got with a decent team, he would be the next schumi.

Now as far as talent goes, yes he has talent, but hell even if your sitting in as a reserve for force india, etc., your a great driver or you wouldn't be there. I didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, i just feel that there is a very strong chance alonso will get the title.



You may not of ment to start a battle, but by calling other users idiots and dumbasses didnt really help your situation.

I do have my own drivers/teams that I would like to see win the championship but thats merely based on my preference to them and not their current competitiveness. Any prediction at the moment i think will be too early until we see all the 2010 cars and how truely competitive they are at Bahrain......Whatever happens I think we're due one hell of a season and I definatly cannot wait :D :D :D



Maybe my choice of words wasn't perfect, but i just felt i had to point out the error he made, while trying to make me look like i contradicted myself
"A plane flying from London to Japan puts out more exhaust fumes than the F1 cars do for the entire race weekend. Why can't we leave the engines the hell ALONE!!"

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Post Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:29 am

joeyg02 wrote:Maybe my choice of words wasn't perfect, but i just felt i had to point out the error he made, while trying to make me look like i contradicted myself



You clearly contradicted yourself and than quickly backtracked and then used foul language to try and cover it up... nothing new, we are well aquainted with fanboys here
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Post Mon Feb 08, 2010 3:13 am

how did i contradict myself? I said he would probably win the most races, and possibly the championship, since mr. ecclestone's medals rule didn't go into affect then how does winning the most races automatically win you the championship?????
"A plane flying from London to Japan puts out more exhaust fumes than the F1 cars do for the entire race weekend. Why can't we leave the engines the hell ALONE!!"

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