Pagani Huayra unveiled

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Post Wed Jan 26, 2011 10:14 pm

Horses for courses Andrew.

Personally I think the F40 was a vile plastic looking kit car wannabe.
Pagani WILL make you look 2 3 or 4 times. If only because you detest it, loathe it, or love it. The design invokes opinion, saying otherwise is false IMO.
More could have been done.
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Post Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:15 pm

JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Horses for courses Andrew.

Personally I think the F40 was a vile plastic looking kit car wannabe.


Oh c'mon, it is in the top 3 of most beautiful Ferrari's ever. One of the first if the first car that used CF, and was pure sports car with no stereo, leather and other passenger crap.

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F40 was amazingly clean design wise, nothing to add, nothing to remove, genuine and unique. It was the peak of design approach started with 308. 328 was beautiful too, 288 was amazing with sort of Group B aggressiveness (my favorite).

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The only black sheep in that series was 348, which was undefined, it wasn't neither edgy with flat surfaces or curvy. 355 finally established curvy shape.

The only ugly plastic wannabee Ferrari's from the 80s was 288 "evoluzione" Image
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Post Wed Jan 26, 2011 11:45 pm

Im afraid manchild, to these eyes at least, The F40 looked cheap and nasty. It was a great car because it was the first supercar to take weight loss seriously.

I can see some saying the Huayra isnt there cup of tea, I appreciate that as its not meant to appeal to everyone.
Equally the F40 was a car pininfarina themselves described as function primary to from, hardly the last word in design. It did its job spectacularly well did the F40. But for reasons of this thread I think Pagani intentionally kept the design along the lines of the Zonda to give it some instant pedigree.

The good thing here is beauty is in the eye of the beholder. No one is wrong :D
More could have been done.
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Post Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:23 am

The F40 looked awesome in it's day, and still looks awesome now. Looks are slightly dated, but not in a bad way. A good clean design is a good clean design and stands the test of time. Look at the drivers eyeline, straight down the hood to the road in front.

Of course it's all subjective and opinions will differ (thank goodness), but there are many writers, reviewers, and testers that still consider it the first true supercars, and the ultimate definition of the category.
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Post Thu Jan 27, 2011 3:35 am

The Zonda was always bordering on cheesy. Unfortunately they've jumped the catfish, as it were, and gone full fondue.

The rockers look a little cheap :/

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That is one nice exposed flappy stick linkage though:

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And it has moving front radiator exits and rear winglets, so points there in my book:

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Post Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:01 am

Formula None wrote:Image


Interior is horrible, silver and light brown. Like it has gone trough "Pimp my ride".

This would fit like a glove:

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:lol:
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Post Thu Jan 27, 2011 7:49 am

I have to agree. The leather looks nice but that center jukebox thing looks like a huge version of a Chinese cell-phone toy for 3-year-olds implanted into the interior. The toy-ish blue instruments make the dash look just as bad. The Zonda interior wasn't as good as Spyker's (sharing the similar style), but it had some taste a least.

PS: what's that thing in the middle of the driver's seat? A cup-holder? A rocket shaft?
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Post Thu Jan 27, 2011 6:58 pm

The simplicity in the design of the F40 was what made it such a good looking car.

This Pagani thing is yet another car where the designers kept saying "Lets put a line here and here and here and here and here and here....." Sadly no one told them to stop until 3 month of line drawing. #-o
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Post Sat Jan 29, 2011 5:20 pm

Well I have made a decision, it is ugly. I prefer the Zonda way above this one. This one looks like a supercar truck, it looks so incredibly fat, heavy and hard to control, it seriously looks like a SUV.

But on that pic, are the rear winglets moving different? it looks like the left has a higher position than the right.
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Post Sat Jan 29, 2011 11:33 pm

It weighs 1350 kgs...that over 150 kgs less than the 458 ferrari.

And it has 1.5g cornering ability...bonkers!

And it has the same torque to weight ratio as a a bugatti veyron SS.

Question the styling, as that is personal preference. I love it, most dont by the looks of this thread.
But it will outdo 99.9 % of supercars with some cash to spare :wink:
More could have been done.
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Post Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:39 pm

Still think it lacks a little crazyness. The first zonda was crazy in its design, and that made it special. This looks nice, as a 458, but not crazy like the Zonda.

If I was to spend 1M$ + on a car I would at least want it to look completely MAD... like an orange Lambo SV.
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Post Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:15 pm

Some say it looks fantastic, others say its ordinary, others that its ugly.

I would say Pagani succeeded in replacing the Zonda then, as that split opinions equally. :wink:
More could have been done.
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Post Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:28 am

Pandamasque wrote:PS: what's that thing in the middle of the driver's seat? A cup-holder? A rocket shaft?



If i had to guess I'd say seatbelt, 5 point, that's the balls one :p.

Too much for my opinion. Exterior-wise it might be ok, but the interior... guack.
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Post Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:47 am

JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Some say it looks fantastic, others say its ordinary, others that its ugly.

I would say Pagani succeeded in replacing the Zonda then, as that split opinions equally. :wink:


Well said! I agree completely, pagani's are supposed to have this kind of reaction
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Post Tue Mar 08, 2011 11:08 am

I think it looks like a Zonda mated with a fish.
It's way too close to the Zonda to be a "crazy" like the Zonda was, and it's way too fiddly and strange to be beautiful.
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