What's the difference of the worlds "knuckle"and "upright"?

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Post Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:47 pm

As the title asked.

how to distinguish the two worlds?

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this is a picture of peugeot 407.

which part is knuckle and which part is upright?
ysyy88
 
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Post Sat Apr 16, 2011 4:55 pm

Well in work we machine the red component & we call it the "Knuckle"

But isn't an "Upright" & "Knuckle" the same thing ?
hollowBallistix
 
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:21 pm

hollowBallistix wrote:Well in work we machine the red component & we call it the "Knuckle"

But isn't an "Upright" & "Knuckle" the same thing ?


Are they exactly the same thing?

So why there are two names?
ysyy88
 
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:40 pm

Knuckle, upright and hub are often used interchangably. There many "definitions" of these parts all floating around on the net contradicting each other.

In that particular design (which is similar to the Revoknuckle from Ford), there is the unusual aspect that there are two components doing the job of the upright. In this case, for sure they are given different names.

In any other case - if you say hub or knuckle or upright, it wont matter. Everyone will know what are you are talking about.

I havent heard "upright" being used for this part very often outside of the motorsport industry. OEMs tend to call it a hub or knuckle

Tim
Tim.Wright
 
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:02 pm

Hub seems kinda strange since I always refer to the part that the wheel attaches to as hubs, which gets installed onto the upright/knuckle.
RacingManiac
 
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:25 pm

Yes, Ive also heard that referred to as the hub too. It can also be referred to as a spindle or axle.

Tim
Tim.Wright
 
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:36 pm

RacingManiac wrote:Hub seems kinda strange since I always refer to the part that the wheel attaches to as hubs, which gets installed onto the upright/knuckle.


same understanding as me, we used to machine both the hubs & knuckles for the front suspension & also the carrier for the rear
hollowBallistix
 
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:51 pm

I think it all depends where in the world you are as to what it is called. I am a master guild Audi tech and we call it a knuckle in the manual, how ever a tech from England calls it an upright and all ways has. Yeah I all ways called the hub where the wheel attaches to if you go to a parts depot and ask for a hub thats what you will recieve.
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peteskar
 
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Post Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:39 pm

Tim.Wright wrote:Yes, Ive also heard that referred to as the hub too. It can also be referred to as a spindle or axle.

Tim


For me spindle is a part that hub might get installed onto, and the spindle is attached to the upright(does not spin, hub spins on it), but you can have spindle-less hub.

Axle is either the actual axle(for a car with live-axle) or half-shafts....
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