Team: Tim Goss (Director of Engineering), Paddy Lowe (TD), Neil Oatley (DRD), Martin Whitmarsh (TP), Jonathan Neale (MD), Sam Michael (SD)
Drivers: Jenson Button (3), Lewis Hamilton (4)
Team name: Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
Could it not just be a tuning issue with the positioning of the exhaust? We know the McLaren is supposed to be at its strongest in the high speed corners, perhaps the exhaust is just not finding its way to the right area at the rear of the car at very low speed when the deflection of the plume is at its smallest. Other cars maybe better in that situation but cannot get the positioning right at higher speed.scarlet wrote:I'm talking slow corners with short apexes, not medium speed ones (with gradual exits). The traction issue's only really shown itself in Monaco and Bahrain, which have more short, tight corners than anywhere else so far. In those you have to have some traction to start to apply full throttle in the first place. Watch the Chinese Grand Prix, specifically the hairpin. The mp4-27 is great under breaking into the corner, but even on better tyres they seem to be slow coming out of the hairpin compared to the cars around them. Again, take this all with a pinch of salt, it could be down to the physical characteristics of the car.Shrieker wrote:Hmm...Interesting take, but once they're on the throttle at corner exit, shouldn't that provide the necessary downforce ? I mean, throttle at corner exit = blowing, no ?
Sure, but exhaust positioning doesn't really come into what the 'electronic trickery' could be. Of course the trickery might not have anything to do with creating the cars visible traction deficit.myurr wrote:Could it not just be a tuning issue with the positioning of the exhaust? We know the McLaren is supposed to be at its strongest in the high speed corners, perhaps the exhaust is just not finding its way to the right area at the rear of the car at very low speed when the deflection of the plume is at its smallest. Other cars maybe better in that situation but cannot get the positioning right at higher speed.scarlet wrote:I'm talking slow corners with short apexes, not medium speed ones (with gradual exits). The traction issue's only really shown itself in Monaco and Bahrain, which have more short, tight corners than anywhere else so far. In those you have to have some traction to start to apply full throttle in the first place. Watch the Chinese Grand Prix, specifically the hairpin. The mp4-27 is great under breaking into the corner, but even on better tyres they seem to be slow coming out of the hairpin compared to the cars around them. Again, take this all with a pinch of salt, it could be down to the physical characteristics of the car.Shrieker wrote:Hmm...Interesting take, but once they're on the throttle at corner exit, shouldn't that provide the necessary downforce ? I mean, throttle at corner exit = blowing, no ?
Sure, but exhaust positioning doesn't really come into what the 'electronic trickery' could be. Of course the trickery might not have anything to do with creating the cars visible traction deficit.scarlet wrote:Could it not just be a tuning issue with the positioning of the exhaust? We know the McLaren is supposed to be at its strongest in the high speed corners, perhaps the exhaust is just not finding its way to the right area at the rear of the car at very low speed when the deflection of the plume is at its smallest. Other cars maybe better in that situation but cannot get the positioning right at higher speed.
I think you'll find it's a LOT more than just suspension and gearbox that influence traction.n smikle wrote:The traction is mostly supension and gearbox influenced.
Other cars that have less downforce and no fancy diffusers are launching out of corners waaay better than Mclaren.
it's offtopic, and admin can relocate this two posts.n smikle wrote:Pirellis are Pirellis, what can you say.
