Mercedes AMG F1 W06

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http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 81867.html

The Car was not built for Tracks like Singapore or Monaco, they made some Setup mistakes and brought no Updates to Singapore, but everyone else did.
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Leo Turrini (an Italian journalist) Blog reports an idea from a an engineer: Merc has a small intercooler (smaller than Ferrari and Renault ones) that in very hot and humid condition (Malaysia, Singapore) can't cool enough

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.poz wrote:Leo Turrini (an Italian journalist) Blog reports an idea from a an engineer: Merc has a small intercooler (smaller than Ferrari and Renault ones) that in very hot and humid condition (Malaysia, Singapore) can't cool enough
Power wasn't the problem, grip was.

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mrluke wrote:
PlatinumZealot wrote:Singapore is very bumpy and it has true high traffic streets also. Remember lewis said he could heat his tyres up to temperature on his out laps but could not get further increase in his hot laps. His tyres actually cooled down. This is because the mercedes was not working the tyre as hard as the other cars. It could be scrub radius it could be the front wheel damper setup.... A lot of things. We know ther aero balance was there though. Hamilton confirmed he had good balance.
But it wasn't just Mercedes, none of the merc powered teams did very well.

The only thing I can think of is that the merc teams have a set up which is much kinder to their tyres due to the higher power available (maybe?) meaning they can struggle to get enough heat into them on some tracks.

But....difficult to explain why so good at Monaco and so bad at Singapore.

Is it maybe heat and mguh/k related? I haven't seen side by side laps with the Ferrari to see where they lose out but heard its in the acceleration zones?

Odd.
The tourqe curve of the Mercedes engine is so brutal so the rear tyres becomes overheated if the driver is not gentle enough with the throttle. Already last year they wanted wider rear tyres to get their power down.

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Suzuka Japan - Thursday

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Suzukua Japan - Thursday

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Is that a new FW for Merc? What's the black bit on the rear most flap?

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tranquility2k4 wrote:Is that a new FW for Merc? What's the black bit on the rear most flap?
I believe that is a gurney flap..

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mrluke wrote: But it wasn't just Mercedes, none of the merc powered teams did very well.
Williams did ok for theri standards. This was not a PU related problem. It was specific to the mercedes team.

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It is the hydraulics i feel. Someone screwd up the settings. Mercedes hydraulics like the frics is set up on a track by track basis. So maybe somewhere somebody left the monza setting in place....
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SiLo wrote:I expect Mercedes to top the timesheet in all the sessions in Japan. I'd be surprised if that wasn't just a one off because they completely missed the mark with setup.
Suzuka FP1:
Exactly this kind of over confidence that lost them the last weekend...
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Rear-wing end-plates are new, with a longer slot at the leading edge.

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Suzuka Japan - FP1

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