2011 F1 car concepts

[vall]

So, 2010 is over and I started thinking of 2011. With 3 teams in the title hunt until the very end, should we expect surprises from teams that stopped the development early, e.g. Merc? Or RBR will dominate again? It was the fastest non-DDD car in 2009.... Who will opt for clean sheet designs?

[netoperek]

For sure Renault will start with brand new design. They suffered weaknesses of R29 this season and i doubt they would do the same next season Especially that they now have their CFD and windtunnel working and tested. To be honest, i expect them to be very competitive next season. RB will be there as well for sure. It seems mere Adrian's presence gives them 2sec + 50 percent to development rate or something. 2011 Merc will be totally oversteery due to MS preferences, so it will surely suck and they'll lose precious points, as Rosberg prefers understeery car and Shummy is apparently geting slower and more clumsy with each race. Ferrari is totally unpredictable and McLaren will be second to whoever is fastest, as usual
Thats just my loose, drunk thoughts anyways

[Giblet]

Where did you hear Rosberg likes an understeery car? I have read that he likes oversteer as much as Schumi.

All of the quickest drivers prefer oversteer.

[scuderiafan]

I feel that 2011 will be similar to 2010 with Red Bull, Ferrari, and Macca at the front, with more involvement from Mercedes. I really can't wait to see what the teams do over the winter with the EBD's.

[Mandrake]

I feel that 2011 will be similar to 2010 with Red Bull, Ferrari, and Macca at the front, with more involvement from Mercedes. I really can't wait to see what the teams do over the winter with the EBD's.

I just hope that due to the early development of the 2011 car, Mercedes will be a lot closer to the top than the other teams which might have started 2011's car development much later.....I also hope that RedBull will be back at the top, Schumi vs Vettel would be a great duell to have. Maybe RedBull still have the advantage of the best single deck diffuser car in 2009, now combined with the new exhausts....

[netoperek]

Where did you hear Rosberg likes an understeery car? I have read that he likes oversteer as much as Schumi.

All of the quickest drivers prefer oversteer.

Well, i can't find any reliable source to confirm that right now, i just remember reading it somewhere...But nevertheless, Merc from the begining had tendency to understeer and it obviously came to Rosberg liking. If You disagree, i'll edit my previous post

[adrianjordan]

What does everyone think will be the best option for the nose of the cars next season?

Will we see any teams go for a similar approach to the BGP001 with a lower nose or will the raised noses we've seen this year still be the better route to take?

[Carlo's]

Where did you hear Rosberg likes an understeery car? I have read that he likes oversteer as much as Schumi.

All of the quickest drivers prefer oversteer.

Kubica suffers from oversteer a lot, he has to have understeery car and he is one of the fastest guys here.


Overall weight of the cars will increase to 640 kg, won't it? This season we had 620 kg?

[godlameroso]

Next years cars will be much more streamlined than this year. There will be a huge reduction in downforce, therefore the teams will want to run the rear bodywork as low as possible to feed the beam wing as much air as possible. This will force the sidepods forward for packaging reasons. Expect to see more gurney flaps just about everywhere in the rear.

[Giblet]

Where did you hear Rosberg likes an understeery car? I have read that he likes oversteer as much as Schumi.

All of the quickest drivers prefer oversteer.

Well, i can't find any reliable source to confirm that right now, i just remember reading it somewhere...But nevertheless, Merc from the begining had tendency to understeer and it obviously came to Rosberg liking. If You disagree, i'll edit my previous post

My understanding was just that when they adjusted the Merc to help with Schumachers preferences, Rosberg took just as well to the changes.

[gibells]

I can see the side-pods being quite chunky, what with the 180L tanks and the kers unit & batteries. I'd like to see top designers differing approach to solving the issues.

The adjustable RWs will + KERS + adjustable FW is going to make driving the things pretty busy throughout a lap. It's going to be really exciting if it all happens, but I can see them dumping the ARW.

[gridwalker]

Last night, as I was drifting off to sleep, a thought popped into my head :
The rear wing becomes adjustable when you are within a certain distance of the person ahead, so what happens when you pass them?

Does the wing suddenly stop adjusting, leaving you with a misadjusted rear wing?

Does the wing automatically return to a default setting?

Do you get one more adjustment after you have passed, so you can set the wing to your personal optimum setting?

Does anybody have any concrete answers?

[vall]

I can see the side-pods being quite chunky, what with the 180L tanks and the kers unit & batteries. I'd like to see top designers differing approach to solving the issues.

The adjustable RWs will + KERS + adjustable FW is going to make driving the things pretty busy throughout a lap. It's going to be really exciting if it all happens, but I can see them dumping the ARW.

I think the adjustable FW will be no more. It is replaced by ARW.

[raymondu999]

Last night, as I was drifting off to sleep, a thought popped into my head :
The rear wing becomes adjustable when you are within a certain distance of the person ahead, so what happens when you pass them?

Does the wing suddenly stop adjusting, leaving you with a misadjusted rear wing?

Does the wing automatically return to a default setting?

Do you get one more adjustment after you have passed, so you can set the wing to your personal optimum setting?

Does anybody have any concrete answers?

Sorry to be pedantic.. do you mean alongside?

[gridwalker]

I thought what I meant was reasonably clear ...

Basically, I want to know what happens to your rear wing after you have made your pass.

If the wing only works when you are within X seconds of the car in front, I would like to know what happens after the overtaking maneuvre has been completed : Leaving the rear wing on the incorrect DF setting could have serious safety implications, so I would have thought that the wing wouldn't just freeze in place.

Does your wing :
A) Freeze in its current setting?
B) Return to a default setting?
C) Give you a limited time to select the setting that is most suitable for running in clean air?