Abu Dhabi GP 2011 - Yas Marina

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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:43 am

On other forums people are speaking that with so many spins (Vettel, Alonso ...) it seems like RB and Ferrari are testing with 2012 engine mapping in mind ...
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:49 am

That's a possible thought. A lot of it has been oversteer on entry, which is probably the biggest effect of not running the EBD mapping. (you won't get exit oversteer as you're on the power on exit anyways). I think another cause could just be that they were using too much entry kerb, and so they had less grip on the right-side tyres
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:34 am

We saw both RB and Ferrari struggling with snap oversteer, the rear end suddenly flipping around. It caused Webber to do a 180 on the straight while Alonso, Vettel and Massa managed to get to the end of the straight before the rear flipped on the braking zone for turn 1 and sent them off track.

Odd that both cars for both teams had very similar problems with rear stability for the same corner.

Glock also went off at turn 1, but that wasn't as dramatic, it was more of a sideways slide once he was halfway around the corner.
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:38 am

richard I think I know the spin you're talking about with MW. That happened on Turn 18 rather than a straight.
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:17 am

Button says that he's been practicing overtakes and even with 2 DRS zones it's very, very difficult here still.
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:27 am

Very difficult to judge from practice I would've thought - it was possible the other guy was on light fuel and Button on heavy, or perhaps the other guy also had his DRS open, but yes, it's not looking good right now
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:35 am

Also, the McLarens were setting their fast times in sectors 1 and 3 – they're obviously set up for slightly more df & drag than everyone else, so that could contribute too.
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:43 am

Beelsebob don't forget they have one of the most powerful DRS wings around now
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:45 am

raymondu999 wrote:Beelsebob don't forget they have one of the most powerful DRS wings around now

Yep, but that doesn't help any if they set their gear ratios to be slower down the straights and quicker in the acceleration zones, given the sector times from P1/P2 that seems to be exactly what they've done.
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:19 am

Repeat of Spa?
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:08 pm

Hamilton looks mighty. I will be very surprised if he doesn't get the front row. I'm looking forward to an epic fight for pole between The Bulls, and McLaren!
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:15 pm

Just noticed Lewis do his practice start:
A-from P2 on the grid
B-he launched in 2nd gear not first???

Why would they not simply lengthen 1st as it cannot be used much other wise then pulling out of the garage
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:25 pm

The McLarens in S3 are absolutely unbelievably mighty. Hamilton was 0.45s faster than any other car in P3 through there.
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:43 pm

If the maccas are crushing sector 3 rb should be worried
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Post Sat Nov 12, 2011 1:46 pm

Maybe it's such a case that he would lose more time actually shifting from 1st to 2nd at the start of the race? Also maybe they found a new RPM sweet spot for the launch?
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