2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

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diffuser wrote:
NL_Fer wrote:I wonder what they will perform at Suzuka. The long sweeping corners, sharp turns like 130r. It must suit the car.
When Mad Max was chasing Alonzo late in the race, I couldn't help but notice a flash red light on the back of the McHonda and no red flashing light on the back of RBR. Significantly longer duration of their electrical power.
Or...Just different mapping depending of where the team needs the boost at most and where is best to recharge it.
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NL_Fer wrote:I wonder what they will perform at Suzuka. The long sweeping corners, sharp turns like 130r. It must suit the car.
130r will be flat for all top teams. Not much advantage to be gained trough there.

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How do you mean that. The flashing light is a sign of lift and coast. Fred was defending and in situations where overtaking was impossible why not lift and coast and do the necessary fuel saving? Fred couldn't push as hard either because of the older tires.
‘Lift and coast’

If the torque management system on the car decides to go into a fuel-save mode, the rear light will flash for a second to warn any driver behind. The thresholds are configurable but currently set for a car above 95 per cent throttle for more than a second, travelling faster than 180kph, that experiences a torque reduction of 120kW or more.

The warning system has been created because these events are controlled by the electronics rather than by the driver. If the driver decides to back off early then the situation is as it always has been. He has a responsibility to ensure another car is not close behind him. It’s as simple as that. One would normally expect the driver to check that it’s OK to back off. The warning light is there for situations not controlled by the driver.

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Jef Patat wrote:How do you mean that. The flashing light is a sign of lift and coast. Fred was defending and in situations where overtaking was impossible why not lift and coast and do the necessary fuel saving? Fred couldn't push as hard either because of the older tires.
‘Lift and coast’

If the torque management system on the car decides to go into a fuel-save mode, the rear light will flash for a second to warn any driver behind. The thresholds are configurable but currently set for a car above 95 per cent throttle for more than a second, travelling faster than 180kph, that experiences a torque reduction of 120kW or more.

The warning system has been created because these events are controlled by the electronics rather than by the driver. If the driver decides to back off early then the situation is as it always has been. He has a responsibility to ensure another car is not close behind him. It’s as simple as that. One would normally expect the driver to check that it’s OK to back off. The warning light is there for situations not controlled by the driver.
no it is not. The flashing light signals a reduction in power output without driver intervention.

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gianluca.mateo wrote:
Jef Patat wrote:How do you mean that. The flashing light is a sign of lift and coast. Fred was defending and in situations where overtaking was impossible why not lift and coast and do the necessary fuel saving? Fred couldn't push as hard either because of the older tires.
‘Lift and coast’

If the torque management system on the car decides to go into a fuel-save mode, the rear light will flash for a second to warn any driver behind. The thresholds are configurable but currently set for a car above 95 per cent throttle for more than a second, travelling faster than 180kph, that experiences a torque reduction of 120kW or more.

The warning system has been created because these events are controlled by the electronics rather than by the driver. If the driver decides to back off early then the situation is as it always has been. He has a responsibility to ensure another car is not close behind him. It’s as simple as that. One would normally expect the driver to check that it’s OK to back off. The warning light is there for situations not controlled by the driver.
no it is not. The flashing light signals a reduction in power output without driver intervention.

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That's what he said

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the EDGE wrote:
gianluca.mateo wrote:
Jef Patat wrote:How do you mean that. The flashing light is a sign of lift and coast. Fred was defending and in situations where overtaking was impossible why not lift and coast and do the necessary fuel saving? Fred couldn't push as hard either because of the older tires.
no it is not. The flashing light signals a reduction in power output without driver intervention.

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That's what he said
no that's what he quoted. What he said is that the light flashes during lift and coast. The red light does not flash because of lift and coast, but because of a reduction of deployment due to engine maps.

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Well we should see something different this year, because Honda fixed the short deployment. Maybe it will be a GP2 downforce this time.

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I noticed the light too.

Jenson said they had the best deployment . No one said anything about good harvesting or storage.

They still don't generates as much electrical energy as others, and they're till not there with the ICE either.

That's not to say the chassis is excellent, but its not the biggest problem. Previous races have proven that.
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Alonso Fan wrote:I noticed the light too.

Jenson said they had the best deployment . No one said anything about good harvesting or storage.

They still don't generates as much electrical energy as others, and they're till not there with the ICE either.

That's not to say the chassis is excellent, but its not the biggest problem. Previous races have proven that.
The lack of grip is a serious problem, but yes the hay so many to choose! . The amount of work to do for next season is overwhelming.

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Vasconia wrote: The amount of work to do for next season is overwhelming
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Dipesh1995 wrote:This is the problem with McLaren: Ignorance.
Poor McLaren, they should sign you in :lol:


Mad wrote:Mclaren hasn't produced a great championship winning chassis since 2009, even in 2008 Ferrari was a better car.
Funny how they started making "great" chassis once Honda came onboard with a weak PU.
You probably are missing the day Honda came onboard is also the day Peter Prodromou came onboard to design McLaren chassis :wink:

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diffuser wrote:The PU is last with the exception of the 2015 Ferrari, which isn't gonna help them next year since TR will not be running it .
Sorry for the OT but, what do you mean? STR will change the PU?

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STR will return to Renaults.

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Andres125sx wrote:
Dipesh1995 wrote:This is the problem with McLaren: Ignorance.
Poor McLaren, they should sign you in :lol:
Funny you should say that, never know, maybe in the near future...... [-o< :wink: :)

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Paul wrote:STR will return to Renaults.
It was a logic consequence of a bad deal with Ferrari. Now TR will evolve like a normal team.