McLaren using Windows XP

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Post Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:33 pm

Very serious business at Mclaren, look at Sam Michaels body language xD

Never knew a windows desktop was such a serious piece of Formula 1, however he did have wind forcast/modelling for the circuit up earlier and may of seen me coming up to take a snap of his new work space :P

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Post Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:40 pm

you have to be serios when you realize that you have just deleted Lewis's pit stop strategy
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:21 am

Hail22 wrote:Very serious business at Mclaren, look at Sam Michaels body language xD

Never knew a windows desktop was such a serious piece of Formula 1, however he did have wind forcast/modelling for the circuit up earlier and may of seen me coming up to take a snap of his new work space :P




Worst is... they are still using XP!
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:28 am

kilcoo316 wrote:
Hail22 wrote:Very serious business at Mclaren, look at Sam Michaels body language xD

Never knew a windows desktop was such a serious piece of Formula 1, however he did have wind forcast/modelling for the circuit up earlier and may of seen me coming up to take a snap of his new work space :P




Worst is... they are still using XP!


Don't get how that's worse? I have far fewer problems with my tried and tested and fully debugged Windows XP based work laptop than my Windows 7 home laptop...

...it's not like McLaren doesn't have a relationship with Microsoft (through the deal over the ECU's) and couldn't upgrade if they wanted to...
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:48 am

adrianjordan wrote:Don't get how that's worse?


The 2GB uninterrupted address space limit in XP means it can be very restrictive for engineering applications.

7 has far better networking and has better simultaneous processing capabilities.



I don't use XP anymore, while it did eventually become rock solid, it was also no longer fit for purpose for me, I couldn't live inside the memory limits, even with the PAE enabled.
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:54 am

kilcoo316 wrote:
adrianjordan wrote:Don't get how that's worse?


The 2GB uninterrupted address space limit in XP means it can be very restrictive for engineering applications.

7 has far better networking and has better simultaneous processing capabilities.



I don't use XP anymore, while it did eventually become rock solid, it was also no longer fit for purpose for me, I couldn't live inside the memory limits, even with the PAE enabled.


Depends what you're doing with it. I doubt that the displays on the pit wall are doing much more than acting as dumb terminals relaying information being processed elsewhere. So being unable to allocate vast swathes of RAM probably isn't very limiting for their needs.

The software they're using may also have been written specifically for XP and rather than upgrade everything for the sake of upgrading, and therefore have to modify the software and all its dependencies, they stick with what's working for them.
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:36 am

Wouldn't you need 64-bit to use more than 3.3GB anyways? It's been a while since I stayed on the edge of hardware technological advancement though :lol:
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:19 pm

raymondu999 wrote:Wouldn't you need 64-bit to use more than 3.3GB anyways? It's been a while since I stayed on the edge of hardware technological advancement though :lol:


Nope. All the recent processors have PAE support, that means they can address more than 4GiB of ram even with a 32bit kernel.
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:04 pm

Federico wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Wouldn't you need 64-bit to use more than 3.3GB anyways? It's been a while since I stayed on the edge of hardware technological advancement though :lol:


Nope. All the recent processors have PAE support, that means they can address more than 4GiB of ram even with a 32bit kernel.


It's dependent on the Operating system, Microsoft routinely limits 32bit consumer OS's to 4gb even with PAE switched on. There are unofficial patches to get around that, but system stability is hit and miss (drivers tend to throw a wobbly).

I'm guessing that McLaren might be running XP in a virtual environment on the pitwall, the benefit of that being you only need one computer/server to do it.
Compability in Windows 7 Ultimate/Enterprise is easy peasy - XP Mode. You can either run a virtual XP desktop or run it in the background. Just means you can use legacy apps without much trouble.

The MP4-27 looks like a nicely designed and packaged car so far. The titling wings look like another nifty design by McLaren.
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:12 pm

taperoo2k wrote:
Federico wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Wouldn't you need 64-bit to use more than 3.3GB anyways? It's been a while since I stayed on the edge of hardware technological advancement though :lol:


Nope. All the recent processors have PAE support, that means they can address more than 4GiB of ram even with a 32bit kernel.


It's dependent on the Operating system, Microsoft routinely limits 32bit consumer OS's to 4gb even with PAE switched on. There are unofficial patches to get around that, but system stability is hit and miss (drivers tend to throw a wobbly).

So Rob Smedley must be using XP then :lol:
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Post Wed Mar 21, 2012 4:14 pm

raymondu999 wrote:So Rob Smedley must be using XP then :lol:


Kaboom tish.
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Post Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:30 am

myurr wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:So Rob Smedley must be using XP then :lol:


Kaboom tish.

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Post Thu Mar 22, 2012 3:38 pm

taperoo2k wrote:
Federico wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:Wouldn't you need 64-bit to use more than 3.3GB anyways? It's been a while since I stayed on the edge of hardware technological advancement though :lol:


Nope. All the recent processors have PAE support, that means they can address more than 4GiB of ram even with a 32bit kernel.


It's dependent on the Operating system, Microsoft routinely limits 32bit consumer OS's to 4gb even with PAE switched on. There are unofficial patches to get around that, but system stability is hit and miss (drivers tend to throw a wobbly).

I'm guessing that McLaren might be running XP in a virtual environment on the pitwall, the benefit of that being you only need one computer/server to do it.
Compability in Windows 7 Ultimate/Enterprise is easy peasy - XP Mode. You can either run a virtual XP desktop or run it in the background. Just means you can use legacy apps without much trouble.

The MP4-27 looks like a nicely designed and packaged car so far. The titling wings look like another nifty design by McLaren.


XP is also available in 64 bits version.
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