The Future of F1 will be electric

[autogyro]

Jean Todt, President of the FIA has confirmed that there will be electric formula' developed including Electric F1 cars.
It seems that my suggestions to the FIA and the official paper I sent them has helped to confirm the direction international motor racing will take in the future.
Perhaps now those reading these forums will understand what I have been on about.

[Pandamasque]

They will also know who to blame for all this

[scotty86]

Jean Todt, President of the FIA has confirmed that there will be electric formula' developed including Electric F1 cars.
It seems that my suggestions to the FIA and the official paper I sent them has helped to confirm the direction international motor racing will take in the future.
Perhaps now those reading these forums will understand what I have been on about.

Are you seriously suggesting you are a major player in shaping the future of top level motorsport?

[autogyro]

I did place an official paper before the FIA AEC which was considered at their meetings in Paris and Monaco.
The FIA then advised the construction of a single seater electric prototype the formulec EV1, which was built by Mercedese Petronas. Siemens in Germany is still sorting the powertrain.
I have been advising various members of the FIA and other motor sport authorities and builders ever since, so yes.
This latest media release is almost exactly the content of my paper word for word.

It is not my fault that so many in top motor sport continue to look to the future with blinkers and ears deafened by internal combustion engine noise.

[Pandamasque]

It is not my fault that so many in top motor sport continue to look to the future with blinkers and ears deafened by internal combustion engine noise.

This sounds a bit like an IDM fan arguing with Metal fan about who's genre is better in using words like 'blinkered', 'deaf' and of course 'retarded'.

Beside that, this is also very inconsistent of you. Because when I suggested that electric cars should be on F1 grid and prove their worth in a straight fight against 'conventional' ones with equal energy supply, you said it's not necessary, EVs should run be a separate series. But at the same time somehow it is THE future of F1. Hence replacing it completely.

[autogyro]

It is not my fault that so many in top motor sport continue to look to the future with blinkers and ears deafened by internal combustion engine noise.

This sounds a bit like an IDM fan arguing with Metal fan about who's genre is better in using words like 'blinkered', 'deaf' and of course 'retarded'.

Beside that, this is also very inconsistent of you. Because when I suggested that electric cars should be on F1 grid and prove their worth in a straight fight against 'conventional' ones with equal energy supply, you said it's not necessary, EVs should run be a separate series. But at the same time somehow it is THE future of F1. Hence replacing it completely.

I contacted Martin Whitmarsh last year to suggest an electric formula to support conventional F1 races. I believe this is now being discused by the official bodies involved in some detail. The formulec EV1 car built by Mercedese is one possibility for this although there are other options.
I have always believed that F1, or a replacement series would be all electric and an increasing number of important people in F1 and motorsport generaly, (including of course now Jean Todt) are coming to this conclusion.
F1 will progress IMO into the new 2013 regulations and onwards with an increasing use of energy recovery systems and electric traction. How long it will be able to hold onto internal combustion and liquid fuels is the big question.
Those who run F1 will go for the best financial returns, even if some of them continue to be 'motor heads'. This is likely to generate a split at some stage. although probably only after 2014. This depends on the development speed of road electric traction. It may be fast enough to displace current F1 with an electric formula sooner than many might think possible.

[Scuderia_Russ]

Was talking to Neil from Gear tronics last week who believes that motorsport as we know it now will be dead in twenty years time. I would be inclined to agree with him.
The E.U. are proposing banning any vehicle powered with petrolium from every city in Europe by 2050.

[Pandamasque]

I say, let's have fun while it lasts. After that we'll only have some vintage videos to salivate on. If we live that long that is. 2012 is near.

[autogyro]

I think the current Japanese nuclear disaster will convince most people of the need to invest in and develop alternate energy production and new technology.
It is now essential.
This is another reason why vehicle traction will become electric as will F1.

[andrew]

And how is this electricity generated? Wind and solar power is not feasible unless on a massive scale. But the glaringly obvious factor that the green brigade ignore is the storage of the electric. Do you know what goes into a battery?

[Dragonfly]

They will reintroduce refueling .. err .. I mean recharging. And the pit stops will take some minutes - enough for the driver to go to the toilet and have an ice-cream in a hot day

[autogyro]

And how is this electricity generated? Wind and solar power is not feasible unless on a massive scale. But the glaringly obvious factor that the green brigade ignore is the storage of the electric. Do you know what goes into a battery?

Perhaps you can be a bit more specific Andrew.
How would you generate the energy demanded for the future?
Please tell us what goes into a battery and while you are at it, please tell us what goes into fossil fuels. That should keep you busy for a few years without a conclusion as to what to do.
In the meantime while we await your answers can you please pay twice your current energy bills for delaying sensible development with your BS tactics.

[autogyro]

They will reintroduce refueling .. err .. I mean recharging. And the pit stops will take some minutes - enough for the driver to go to the toilet and have an ice-cream in a hot day

Pit stop to change battery pack would be faster than tyre change.
Is that the best you can come up with dragonfly?
Surely the brrrm brrrm factor is a better direction of criticism, to satisfy all the motor heads? Go on Bernie will be proud.
Still I cant blame you for wanting to stay in the internal combustion 19th century, after all it is expected of you in our out dated fossil fuel world.
I often wonder how many 'cancers' are caused in the times you stand in line, nozzle in hand feeding that toxic fuel to your big boys toys.
The action is so close to standing with d--k in hand it must be real difficult to change.

[andrew]

And how is this electricity generated? Wind and solar power is not feasible unless on a massive scale. But the glaringly obvious factor that the green brigade ignore is the storage of the electric. Do you know what goes into a battery?

Perhaps you can be a bit more specific Andrew.
How would you generate the energy demanded for the future?
Please tell us what goes into a battery and while you are at it, please tell us what goes into fossil fuels. That should keep you busy for a few years without a conclusion as to what to do.
In the meantime while we await your answers can you please pay twice your current energy bills for delaying sensible development with your BS tactics.

Is there any point having a discusion if you just resort to being childish?

You are the one constantly telling us to give up fossil fuels and move to greener energy sources. You are the one always lecturing on the evils of nuclear and telling us you have produced papers and wotnot.

It is feasible for me to ask you a question but it seems you can't answer.

I know what goes into batteries (various acids and alkalais, I'll won't waste space writting what we already know). All things that are extremely harmful and poisonous to both humans and nature and not particularly environtmentally friendly.

I don't know what you mean by BS tatics. Alternative energy sources are not practicable unless done on a huge scale, that is a fact. Personnally, I believe that fosil fuels running out is something that will happen but is being vastly exagerated. If they realy where, I think costs of fuel would be even higher and the profitability of oil firms would be minimal. Time will tell if I am right or wrong.

[Dragonfly]

They will reintroduce refueling .. err .. I mean recharging. And the pit stops will take some minutes - enough for the driver to go to the toilet and have an ice-cream in a hot day

Pit stop to change battery pack would be faster than tyre change.
Is that the best you can come up with dragonfly?
Surely the brrrm brrrm factor is a better direction of criticism, to satisfy all the motor heads? Go on Bernie will be proud.
Still I cant blame you for wanting to stay in the internal combustion 19th century, after all it is expected of you in our out dated fossil fuel world.
I often wonder how many 'cancers' are caused in the times you stand in line, nozzle in hand feeding that toxic fuel to your big boys toys.
The action is so close to standing with d--k in hand it must be real difficult to change.

Forget it, autogyro.
One thing I am dead certain is that I prefer to be like I am in your eyes for the rest of my life, rather than have my sense of humour operated.