Conrod

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Post Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:22 pm

I'm currently studying motorsport engineering at swansea.

I was wondering if anyone could help me with a report I have been set.

I am required to find out the dynamic forces that a typical formula 1 conrod undergoes and how these forces affected by engine speed, reciprocating mass, stroke and ratio between conrod length and crank radius.

Any help that you can provide would be excellent! :D :D :D
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Post Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:39 pm

I dont think the forum does homework answers. But I could be wrong,

Brian,
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Post Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:53 am

Sorry, but what kind of teacher can ask you to find all that instead of actually teaching it?
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Post Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:32 am

Belatti wrote:Sorry, but what kind of teacher can ask you to find all that instead of actually teaching it?

Or how about wanting to find it all out yourself so that you understand it...he must have missed the three yrs prior to the report... :idea:
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Post Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:17 am

I love the condescension that gets doled out with (or in lieu of) a lot of the help around here.
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Post Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:27 am

benberger15 wrote:I'm currently studying motorsport engineering at swansea.

I was wondering if anyone could help me with a report I have been set.

I am required to find out the dynamic forces that a typical formula 1 conrod undergoes and how these forces affected by engine speed, reciprocating mass, stroke and ratio between conrod length and crank radius.

Any help that you can provide would be excellent! :D :D :D



First you need the stroke, bore, and rod length. With that you can calculate the piston's position at any point in a cycle. Using that calculate the velocity at a given rpm. Take that derivative for acceleration. With that and the piston's mass you can figure out some of the forces. The rest is a bit more complicated and you need to read up on it.
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Post Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:42 am

benberger15 wrote:I'm currently studying motorsport engineering at swansea.

I was wondering if anyone could help me with a report I have been set.

I am required to find out the dynamic forces that a typical formula 1 conrod undergoes and how these forces affected by engine speed, reciprocating mass, stroke and ratio between conrod length and crank radius.

Any help that you can provide would be excellent! :D :D :D


I can't give the exact answer. But your question here is what the powertrain design engineer do in the early stage of the conrod design, to basically size the conrod as well as its small end and big end bearing, shank cross section size etc..

Basically, the thing to do after the geometric and inertia of the component has been determine is to estimate the cylinder pressure. This will then give you the force on the conrod for a given crank angle.

This should provide the clue in looking for the related equation typically used in classical method in sizing up the conrod. I'm quite rusty with the formula as I have left my powertrain CAE engineer job for almost year now!
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