Mercedes engibes

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Post Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:25 pm

are McLaren-Mercedes and Mercedes works teams using AMG-Mercedes engines, my mate seems to think they are not because they are v8's and they don';t have a V8 AMG engine for there road cars, I am sure they are but need proof
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Post Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:31 pm

They all come from Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains, which means they're basically just re-branded products of Ilmor.
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Post Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:39 pm

F1 engibes and cars have zero to do with the road going production models that the manufacturers produce.
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Post Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:42 pm

Damn shame, too. F1 engibes could be vastly improved with some road-going engibe techbology.

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Post Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:45 pm

Nah, F1 engibes operate at wide open throtel and high revs most of the time and have diferant performance rekuirements.
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Post Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:49 am

Just to muddy the water a bit, Merc do put V8 engines in their road cars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_SLS_AMG
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Post Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:51 pm

bhallg2k wrote:They all come from Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains, which means they're basically just re-branded products of Ilmor.



....... which makes the Mercedes F1 car more British than the Rolls-Royce ??
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Post Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:55 pm

Yep. The only thing German in a Mercedes F1 is the driver.
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Post Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:16 pm

Tommy Cookers wrote:
bhallg2k wrote:They all come from Mercedes AMG High Performance Powertrains, which means they're basically just re-branded products of Ilmor.



....... which makes the Mercedes F1 car more British than the Rolls-Royce ??


Same way the Toyota team was more German than Japanese, and the same team was more British than Japanese as the engines were produced in Brackley as well. The Honda engine hall is now the Mercedes simulator seemingly. HRT the last two years were more German than Spanish.
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Post Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:38 pm

mx_tifoso wrote:F1 engibes and cars have zero to do with the road going production models that the manufacturers produce.

I think I need to get out more, because right now I really want to change the terminology so that engibes will always be engibes. I've been laughing about this for two days.
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Post Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:41 am

bhallg2k wrote:Yep. The only thing German in a Mercedes F1 is the driver.


Don't forget the connectors on the wiring harness.

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Post Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:55 am

bhallg2k wrote:Yep. The only thing German in a Mercedes F1 is the driver.

It was the other way round in the 50s, and they sold a lot of cars because of their success !
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Post Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:01 am

rbaggio wrote:are McLaren-Mercedes and Mercedes works teams using AMG-Mercedes engines, my mate seems to think they are not because they are v8's and they don';t have a V8 AMG engine for there road cars, I am sure they are but need proof


99% of the models in the AMG lineup are v8's and the ones that aren't are v12's.
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Post Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:11 am

Cold Fussion wrote:
rbaggio wrote:are McLaren-Mercedes and Mercedes works teams using AMG-Mercedes engines, my mate seems to think they are not because they are v8's and they don';t have a V8 AMG engine for there road cars, I am sure they are but need proof


99% of the models in the AMG lineup are v8's and the ones that aren't are v12's.


Pretty soon there will be an I4 as well though.

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Post Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:28 am

Judging by the OP's IP location and the time of the post, I'd say this was a pub conversation. They'd probably been arguing about it for a good hour in the pub, then the OP posted the question when he got home after closing time.

FYI "Closing time" is a quaint English & Welsh tradition whereby all the pubs close at the exactly the same time to ensure crowds of drunken people simultaneously surge onto the streets in search of a kebab and a taxi. This inevitably results in fights. It's actually a secret method for boosting overtime payments for the police and NHS staff, I think Americans call it "socialism".

However socialists think it a deliberate policy by the ruling classes to repress the working classes. Friday nights leave them too hung over (or injured) to start a revolution. They then have to work all week to avoid a scolding from 'er indoors (and to pay for the drink bill).

Meanwhile the Scots don't have a closing time - they drink all day to drown the misery of subservience to the Sassenachs since 1707.

I digress, but hopefully that'll help you understand the Olympics Opening ceremony which was conceived by Danny Boyle while enjoying a fine pair of Bristols in the Dog & Garter in Whitechapel.
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