What are you talking about? Ferrari has had a number of turbo problems this year.
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What are you talking about? Ferrari has had a number of turbo problems this year.
Yet no DNFshurril wrote: ↑26 Sep 2017, 21:19What are you talking about? Ferrari has had a number of turbo problems this year.
In Spain.
Oh and we are in complete agreement there. I think Mercedes even admitted that getting that to work was Very Hard. My entry here is that it is also my impression that Ferrari has had some serious trouble with their turbos this year. But also, really, that their engines seems to work very very well!
Because they were lucky. Ferrari had had at least 2 turbos failures in FPs, but none in the race and will have further penaltes coming up. I think after 3 years of Mercedes' almost (!!) bulletproof reliablity it's quite hillarious you're saying 1 dnf is unacceptable lol.
It is important in the current context - if Hamilton's turbo had gone instead it could have costed him the WDC.Juzh wrote: ↑27 Sep 2017, 20:14Because they were lucky. Ferrari had had at least 2 turbos failures in FPs, but none in the race and will have further penaltes coming up. I think after 3 years of Mercedes' almost (!!) bulletproof reliablity it's quite hillarious you're saying 1 dnf is unacceptable lol.
I said almost bulletproof for that exact reason. Because they're not 100%. Also, that engine alone did not cost him wdc, but that's a whole different story.Mudflap wrote: ↑27 Sep 2017, 22:39It is important in the current context - if Hamilton's turbo had gone instead it could have costed him the WDC.Juzh wrote: ↑27 Sep 2017, 20:14Because they were lucky. Ferrari had had at least 2 turbos failures in FPs, but none in the race and will have further penaltes coming up. I think after 3 years of Mercedes' almost (!!) bulletproof reliablity it's quite hillarious you're saying 1 dnf is unacceptable lol.
Oh yeah and remember one year ago when his engine failed arguably losing him the WDC ? I bet he found that 1 DNF hilarious.
Which is why I said 'arguably' - but it is a very good example where 1 DNF is one too many.Juzh wrote: ↑27 Sep 2017, 22:58I said almost bulletproof for that exact reason. Because they're not 100%. Also, that engine alone did not cost him wdc, but that's a whole different story.Mudflap wrote: ↑27 Sep 2017, 22:39It is important in the current context - if Hamilton's turbo had gone instead it could have costed him the WDC.Juzh wrote: ↑27 Sep 2017, 20:14
Because they were lucky. Ferrari had had at least 2 turbos failures in FPs, but none in the race and will have further penaltes coming up. I think after 3 years of Mercedes' almost (!!) bulletproof reliablity it's quite hillarious you're saying 1 dnf is unacceptable lol.
Oh yeah and remember one year ago when his engine failed arguably losing him the WDC ? I bet he found that 1 DNF hilarious.
And all turbos are currently available to them.Mudflap wrote: ↑27 Sep 2017, 23:02Which is why I said 'arguably' - but it is a very good example where 1 DNF is one too many.
And yes - you are spot on - they are not 100%. But Ferrari have a perfect PU record so far (FP failures have not costed them anything just yet).
Valterri had to change his new engine because of water leak, then he went to the old high mileage one and that was the one that failed. Still not bad of a failure rate considering.
It will make things more interesting for sure.PlatinumZealot wrote: ↑28 Sep 2017, 20:18Next year they will be penalized to go beyond 3 engines! So more of a lottery at the end of the season, and here I thought Bernie wasn't active in the sport anymore. Guess not.