Engine usage in '09

Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:03 pm

So we're approaching the 4th of the season now. Does anybody know how many engines each driver has used from their allocation of 8?

3 different engines for each of the first three races which have been put in storage for later in the year?
1 engine for all three races since two of them were in the rain?

Does anyone have any idea?

Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:42 pm

Summary: all of them have used 2 engines, except Robert Kubitza, who has used three and Heikki Kovalainen, who has used 1. I made this graph:

Verse and chapter:

ES# - Engine Serial # - for each driver
EV# - Event number - number of events that engine has been used

Note that in Malaysia most teams changed engines after Friday practice, but at Shanghai, only Hamilton and Kubica did so.

1.  Lewis Hamilton  McLaren  Mercedes FO108W 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1  AUS   1   130   689.390  1  New 
 2  MAL   1   105   582.015  2 
 3  CHN   1    50   272.550  3 
 3  CHN   2    90   490.590  1  New 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   375  2034.545 

 2.  Heikki Kovalainen  McLaren  Mercedes FO108W 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1  AUS   1    78   413.634   1  New 
 2  MAL   1    74   410.182   2 
 3  CHN   1   136   741.336   3 
-------------------------------------- 
 3        1   288  1565.152 

 3.  Felipe Massa  Ferrari  Ferrari 056 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1  AUS   1   142   753.026   1  New 
 2  MAL   1    59   327.037   2 
 2  MAL   2    48   266.064   1  New 
 3  CHN   2   103   561.453   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   352  1907.580 

 4.  Kimi Räikkönen  Ferrari  Ferrari 056 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1  AUS   1   137   726.511   1  New 
 2  MAL   1    58   321.494   2 
 2  MAL   2    62   343.666   1  New 
 3  CHN   2   148   806.748   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   405  2198.419 

 5.  Robert Kubica  BMW Sauber  BMW P86/9 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1  AUS   1   150   795.450   1  New 
 2  MAL   1    56   310.408   2 
 2  MAL   2    38   210.634   1  New 
 3  CHN   2    52   283.452   2 
 3  CHN   3    78   425.178   1  New 
--------------------------------------- 
 5        3   374  2025.122 

 6.  Nick Heidfeld  BMW Sauber  BMW P86/9 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   145   768.935   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    54   299.322   2 
 2   MAL  2    63   349.209   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   133   724.983   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   395  2142.449 

 7.  Fernando Alonso  Renault  Renault RS27 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   132   699.996   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    32   177.376   2 
 2   MAL  2    62   343.666   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   130   708.630   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   356  1929.668 

 8.  Nelsinho Piquet  Renault  Renault RS27 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   118   625.754   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    55   304.865   2 
 2   MAL  2    60   332.580   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   136   741.336   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   369  2004.535 

 9.  Jarno Trulli  Toyota  Toyota RVX-09 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   160   848.480   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    60   332.580   2 
 2   MAL  2    72   399.096   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   122   665.022   2 
--------------------------------------- 
 4        2   414  2245.178 

10.  Timo Glock  Toyota  Toyota RVX-09 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   168   890.904   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    56   310.408   2 
 2   MAL  2    77   426.811   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   137   746.787   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   438  2374.910 

11.  Sébastien Bourdais  Toro Rosso  Ferrari 056 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   141   747.723   1  New 
 2   MAL  2   112   620.816   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   141   768.591   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 3        2   394  2137.130 

12.  Sébastien Buemi  Toro Rosso  Ferrari 056 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   145   768.935   1  New 
 2   MAL  2   110   609.730   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   153   834.003   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 3        2   408  2212.668 

14.  Mark Webber  Red Bull  Renault RS27 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   130   689.390   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    59   327.037   2 
 2   MAL  2    63   349.209   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   135   735.885   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   387   2101.521 

15.  Sebastian Vettel  Red Bull  Renault RS27 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   112   593.936   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    65   360.295   2 
 2   MAL  2    61   338.123   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   116   632.316   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   354  1924.670 

16.  Nico Rosberg  Williams  Toyota RVX-09 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   155   821.965   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    66   365.838   2 
 2   MAL  2    71   393.553   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   155   844.905   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   447  2426.261 

17.  Kazuki Nakajima  Williams  Toyota RVX-09 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   105   556.815   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    60   332.580   2 
 2   MAL  2    62   343.666   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   130   708.630   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   357  1941.691 

20.  Adrian Sutil  Force India  Mercedes FO108W 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   128   678.784   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    54   299.322   2 
 2   MAL  2    58   321.494   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   125   681.375   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   365   1980.975 

21.  Giancarlo Fisichella  Force India  Mercedes FO108W 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   136   721.208   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    47   260.521   2 
 2   MAL  2    56   310.408   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   133   724.983   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   372  2017.120 

22.  Jenson Button  Brawn  Mercedes FO108W 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   147   779.541   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    51   282.693   2 
 2   MAL  2    66   365.838   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   144   784.944   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   408  2213.016 

23.  Rubens Barrichello  Brawn  Mercedes FO108W 

No. GP   ES# Laps   Ev-Km.  Ev# Status 
====================================== 
 1   AUS  1   157   832.571   1  New 
 2   MAL  1    59   327.037   2 
 2   MAL  2    70   388.010   1  New 
 3   CHN  2   148   806.748   2 
-------------------------------------- 
 4        2   434  2354.366

Source: Jo Bauer's Technical Reports, via Brian Lawrence at old Usenet (aka Google Groups).

Wed Apr 22, 2009 1:53 pm

Great data
=D>

Can you find similar data for gearbox usage in 2009 :?:

Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:20 pm

Well, ναι, dear bar555. There are no impossible things, only unable men, altough I'd say it's impossible to avoid brawls if I let you alone for one day, ehem.

Rule: Drivers must use the same gearbox for four successive events. Any gearbox changes will result in a 5-place grid penalty at that event. Drivers who fail to finish a race are able to change gearboxes without penalty.

Australia

1. Hamilton - new 'box after qualifying, 5-place penalty

Malaysia

4. Räikkönen - DNF in Melbourne, so free change allowed
15. Vettel - DNF in Melbourne, free change
23. Barrichello - new 'box, 5-place penalty

China

10. Glock - new 'box', 5-place penalty
23. Barrichello - free change because he used a spare 'box at Sepang

"The above driver had to replace his previous gearbox during the last event for a spare gearbox and this was before the four consecutive events expired. Therefore he may use a new gearbox at this event and the four consecutive events will start here in accordance with Article 28.6a of the 2009 Formula One Sporting Regulations."

Source: Brian Lawrence, at old Usenet group, rec.sports.formula1.moderated

Wed Apr 22, 2009 6:46 pm

You are so kind Ciro Pabón

Thanks a lot
Muchos gracias senior
ευχαριστώ

Thu Apr 23, 2009 11:43 am

Looks like im gonna have to start a new spreadsheet for engines for my data. But my data suggests simmilar ammounts of engine usage, but i dont have the distances ar anything on my data... yet.

However, i do have Chassis and KERS equiped data.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:41 pm

Fantastic data Ciro. Exactly what I was after. It's interesting to see how many miles Kovalainen has covered in Australia and Malasian eventhough he only managed 2 laps of racing.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:47 pm

Heres the chassis data i have so far for comparison data:

Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:52 pm

ESPImperium wrote:Looks like im gonna have to start a new spreadsheet for engines for my data. But my data suggests simmilar ammounts of engine usage, but i dont have the distances ar anything on my data... yet.

However, i do have Chassis and KERS equiped data.

Nice info, ESP, thank you very much. Just in case, here is the spreadsheet I made, in case you want to reuse something (it's not a very good one, it has no structure): http://sigbrio.googlepages.com/EngineUsage2009.xls

Perhaps we could update this thread once in a while. If the average I find continues, most drivers are going to use the 8 engines allowed well before the end of the championship.

You're welcome, henning. Eukaristó to you, bar555.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:55 pm

Thanks for the added data, im now gonna try and figure out a way to try and incorperate it in to my own data.

Kinda like putting a DDD onto a SDD cars rear end, but ill do a Newey, and pull heaven and earth to incorperate it.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:12 pm

ESPImperium wrote:Thanks for the added data, im now gonna try and figure out a way to try and incorperate it in to my own data.

Kinda like putting a DDD onto a SDD cars rear end, but ill do a Newey, and pull heaven and earth to incorperate it.

EDIT:

The tough part is if a dcar has a engine change in the middle of a week end. Thats what totally f's things up.

Im gonna try something and see if that works.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:44 pm

ESPImperium wrote:
ESPImperium wrote:Thanks for the added data, im now gonna try and figure out a way to try and incorperate it in to my own data.

Kinda like putting a DDD onto a SDD cars rear end, but ill do a Newey, and pull heaven and earth to incorperate it.

EDIT:

The tough part is if a dcar has a engine change in the middle of a week end. Thats what totally f's things up.

Im gonna try something and see if that works.

EDIT #2:

Got my head arround it, and this is a biggie tho.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:22 pm

Here are my figures that i have put together:

Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:05 pm

Wow. If I had a hat, I would take it off.

Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:20 pm

Thanks for the info on the Laps and what engine was used where. Thats probably the biggest help.

May require more like that as the season goes on and the chart evolves.

Engine usage in '09

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