Blown Defuser/Blown Exhaust Systems

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Post Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:00 am

I'm am currently on a project to do with something called Formula Student which is run by IMechE for all University Engineering student to build and race there own racing car.

For part of one of the Concepts for this years car we came up with the idea of a Blown defuser/blown exhaust system, however as this is a relativity new there is very little information about them.

Can anyone please give information??


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Post Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:28 am

Welcome to F1T.

But before you came in here asking for info did you even attempt a search for what you're looking for? And if you did, were the right spellings used?

Defuser = Diffuser

This forum has plenty of info on the EBD so take a moment to find it if you really want it. Most of our members are more than willing to help out but at least do your part and take the first steps instead of demanding info right off the bat.
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Post Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:10 pm

tbh what is your idea there ?
would you think anybody would applaud your efforts to copy f1 latest developments?
I´d say back to step one and ask yourself what should be your goal...

maybe a bit too blunt from my side...sorry.
marcush.
 
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Post Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:26 pm

My feeling in this case (because its a complicated part), if you don't know anything about it, then leave it off the car.

Also, your design process is backwards. You should start with a problem and form a solution. Here you got the solution (exhaust blown diffusor) but no problem. The design judges will likely (attempt to) kill you for this.

And another thing. The blown diffusor is not new. Not even in FSAE/Student. I remember a NZ FSAE team had exhaust outlets fed into their diffusor in about 2005.

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Post Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:26 pm

maybe I´m a bit naive..but not much in formula student/SAE in common with f1(open 4 wheeler)...but much more degree of freedom in the regs.
You could make your life even harder and look for ideas in supertouring or truck racing as well...?
again provocative but as tim put it you need to define your goals first and then start to develop and look how you can achieve the set targets .I would not even call this problems.
marcush.
 
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Post Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:48 pm

Formula student is what F1 should be, a playground for engineers.
Degree of freedom in the regulations is a very nice thing.
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Post Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:52 pm

mep wrote:Formula student is what F1 should be, a playground for engineers.
Degree of freedom in the regulations is a very nice thing.

maybe i should have put it this way ..it sounds easier to digest that ways...so no reason to borrow loophole inspired solutions from a tightly regulated environment.
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Post Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:19 am

@ marcush: I think our original poster has been somewhat misunderstood. He's refering to a "Blown De-fuser", meaning a broken device for the de-fusing of different situations, not an a "Diffuser" in the aerodynamic sense. Big difference that.
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Post Sat Oct 23, 2010 9:49 am

:mrgreen:
as you know my spelling leaves a lot wanting ...so I´m not going to comment on others
potential shortcomings ....and work on my own.
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