hecti wrote:I just cant see why they cant put a limit on engine development budget, say 30 million pounds... and then state that you have to make the end of the race with 160kg of fuel. end of story, you go home do your maths and in 2013 we have 3 or 4 types of engines and 12 different cars.
you could even have the manufactures publicly report engine horsepower, imagine that! and never install another engine freeze, and every time a manufacturer changes a component they have to re-publicize the hp figure.
This is what formula one should be all about, technology and engineering vs technology and engineering. Simple as that. There should be limits, but not limits on creativity, design and aerodynamics, but basic ground rules like max fuel for a race and your car must fit in a box x by y by z meters big.
machin wrote:Anyone got an workable way of doing it?
piast9 wrote:machin wrote:Anyone got an workable way of doing it?
I was thinking about it some time ago, when the budget cap idea appeared for the first time. Of course that you cannot control directly all excessive spending on engine development.
In my opinion it may be controlled in some way by forcing all engine manufacturers to contract at least one customer team and provide it with identical engines that factory team uses at some maximal price set by rules. Nobody would then spend zillions on engine that other teams could also buy for money nowhere near the actual costs.
747heavy wrote:It may goes a way to reduce the possibility of an spending war, but there is no guarantee.
piast9 wrote:747heavy wrote:It may goes a way to reduce the possibility of an spending war, but there is no guarantee.
Of course, I agree that the limit would be not the strict one. But that should prevent situations in which for example the price for the engine would be (I don't remember actual CA2010 price) for example $5M and it would cost the manufacturer the $50M. For sure the rich teams spending limit would be lower than without such rule.
747heavy wrote:What has a limited headcount for chassis development and production to do with engine development cost?
AFAIK there was no talk about a headcount limit for engine manufacturers yet.
autogyro wrote:The money involved is after all mainly from the public in the form of bail outs.
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