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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:50 am

Hi all!

Besides the Renault Espace and Alfa 164 Pro-car, have you seen any other F1 engine installs in cars other than single seat open wheelers?

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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:09 am

welcome to the forum

Jaguar XJR-14

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But given the Jaguar-Ford connection, it was a decided to utilise the 3.5 litre Ford HB V8 Formula One powerplant. Most notably used by the Benetton Formula One team, but now badged as a Jaguar, the Ford HB was detuned to about 11,500 rpm (compared to about 13,000 rpm) and aimed to produce slightly less power (about 650 bhp (485 kW) vs. around 700 bhp) with aims at enhanced reliability.


Mazda MXR-01 (which basicly is an Jaguar XJR-14)

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Thus, Mazda came to the decision of buying an existing V10 engine. They turned to Judd (Engine Developments), who had developed their GV10 3.5L V10 for Formula One in 1991, and arranged a deal in which the Judd engines would be badged as Mazdas, carrying the name MV10.


Peugeot 905 Evo 2

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this engine found it´s way into the 1994 McLaren F1 car

That was the last time the 905 was raced and Peugeot not surprisingly turned their focus to Formula 1 as an engine supplier for McLaren in 1994. The 80-degree V10 might have faired well at Le Mans, it was rather unimpressive in F1
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:19 am

The 72/73 Ferrari 312 P/PB sportscar shared the very same engine as their F1 cousins.
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:29 am

Ahh yes, XJR14 one of my personal favourites.

I was kind of thinking more along the lines of the F1 Supervan. More like odd-ball cars with F1 engines...
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 3:47 am

superflyte wrote: More like odd-ball cars with F1 engines...


odd enough ? :lol:

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Ford Transit fitted with a Cosworth DFV

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and the Supervan 3 with an mid-mounted 650bhp Cosworth HB F1 engine
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:01 am

Yamaha OX99-11

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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:53 am

Thanks! I hadn't seen the BMW X5 'special' before.
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 8:01 am

Isn´t Koeniggsegg using the old Motori Moderni aka Subaru flat 12 Carlo Chiti designed for F1?
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:26 pm

The special X5 wan't a F1 engine. It was the engine from the BMW LMR V12.
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 9:32 pm

marcush. wrote:Isn´t Koeniggsegg using the old Motori Moderni aka Subaru flat 12 Carlo Chiti designed for F1?


:o ?!?!?! I thought that engine was one of the greatest disasters in F1 history. (Though not as bad as the Life W12 . . .)
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:00 pm

marcush. wrote:Isn´t Koeniggsegg using the old Motori Moderni aka Subaru flat 12 Carlo Chiti designed for F1?



All the Koenigsegg's i know of uses the 5.4 V8 based on the Ford block.
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 10:19 pm

n smikle wrote:The special X5 wan't a F1 engine. It was the engine from the BMW LMR V12.


true - apologies !!

as for Marcus´s suggestion:

supercar.net wrote:1999 – Koenigsegg acquired the blueprints, production tooling and patents for a 12 cylinder boxer engine constructed by the legendary engineer Carlo Chiti, who for many years was a head engineer at Ferrari and Alfa Romeo. The engine was designed to be used in formula 1 racing, a super lightweight, horsepower monster, that aim to push the Koenigsegg CC beyond the 400 Km/h limit. This engine is planned to be used in a future limited version of the CC.

http://www.supercars.net/cars/935.html


I think it was going to be called the B12, but it seems that it never has materialized.
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Post Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:48 pm

marcush. wrote:Isn´t Koeniggsegg using the old Motori Moderni aka Subaru flat 12 Carlo Chiti designed for F1?


They did indeed, tying to hold up the xoticar image, but I think the price and lack of power ended that when they decided to go for being the fastest car rightout.
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Post Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:13 am

It's not quite F1, but Georg Plasa's BMW/Judd is pretty cool.

http://134judd.com/

His old BMW/Judd sounded hot too!
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