Slip ratio during cornering?

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Post Mon Mar 19, 2012 4:30 pm

Hello,

today i try to learn a littel bit of tire data and Slip ratio.

I KNOW.
A slip ratio of -1 means full braking lock; a ratio of 0 means the tire is spinning free and 1 is full slip. Also i read the ideal slip ratio for maximum deceleration is 10 to 30%.

But how i can define the Slip ratio for conering? Is it also zero? I think not, or?

But how can i define it?

Hope you can help me.

Thank you
Dean4.0
 
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:53 pm

Anyone?
Dean4.0
 
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:57 pm

Think you answered your own question. Free rolling the longitudinal slip is 0.
Grip is a four letter word.

2 is the new #1.
Jersey Tom
 
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Post Mon Mar 19, 2012 10:25 pm

Ok Thank you.
Dean4.0
 
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2012 1:18 am

Slip ratio for cornering.. aren't you referring to slip angle?
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Caito
 
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2012 2:25 am

Believe he indeed meant slip ratio.. or more correctly still, longitudinal slip.
Grip is a four letter word.

2 is the new #1.
Jersey Tom
 
Joined: 29 May 2006
Location: Huntersville, NC

Post Tue Mar 20, 2012 3:05 am

So, if a car is cornering+braking, to say something..

You could define the tire state by slip angle and slip ratio, or, longitudinal slip and lateral slip?

Meaning the first would be like polar coordinates and the second cartesian coordinates?
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Caito
 
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Post Tue Mar 20, 2012 11:54 am

Caito wrote:So, if a car is cornering+braking, to say something..

You could define the tire state by slip angle and slip ratio, or, longitudinal slip and lateral slip?

Meaning the first would be like polar coordinates and the second cartesian coordinates?


Slip ratio and longitudinal slip are slightly different ways of measuring the same thing, yes. One is zero while free-rolling, the other isn't necessarily.
Grip is a four letter word.

2 is the new #1.
Jersey Tom
 
Joined: 29 May 2006
Location: Huntersville, NC


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