Ray wrote:I disagree. Jan gave him room going into 1 two laps earlier and the Porsche was something like half a second slower per lap for Jans whole stint. He caught him but couldn't pass, and since Jorg knew that he drove him over towards the wall. That's called blocking and as far as I know it's against the rules. Jorg cause a very bad accident that could have been avoided and wasn't penalized. Jan bumping him in the final turn wouldn't have caused an accident anywhere near this. Corvette was penalized for causing a huge crash earlier in the race, Jan went off track to pass Jorg and was penalized, and Jorg drives a car all the way to the wall and causes a massive accident and could have severely hurt Jan and it's just racing? Please.
flynfrog wrote:These are not guys in arm chairs they are in race cars you are telling me you would let the other car by.
vyselegend wrote:But in the last corner, Magnussen goes violently and touch the Porsche, unbalancing it, which makes me think Bergmeister's blocking on the strait is motivated by angryness as much as desper. And that is not acceptable, in any professional racing!
flynfrog wrote:meh the vette hit eh Porsche in the last turn. All bets are off at that point.
Ciro Pabón wrote:You could respectfully think that Bergmeister kept himself within the rules because he moved toward one side and one side only. That's not blocking in the Sporting Code I know.
Perhaps Magnussen knew he didn't have the time to tap the brakes, move towards the right and overtake him before the finish line, so he kept going towards the left side. Unfortunately that was the same side Bergmeister was allowed to move.
You could bet that in any other lap, Bergmeister could have given him room to pass, maybe out of courtesy (not because he was breaking any rule), and more in fear of damaging the left side of his car, but, c'mon, it was the last lap!
What do you expect in the last lap? If you drive defensively, you know that anything can happen in any lap, but something will happen in the last one (unless you drive cars with real power: then you have more trouble with the car than problems with your opponents, and last laps are, usually, a solitary bussiness).
I think last lap "enthusiasm" is much worse in NASCAR and nobody's banned for a day, much less for life. Karters also have a kind of kamikaze style in the last lap, if you ask me. At least my friends seem a bunch of crazy falcons chasing a dove, fighting more among themselves than with the guy in front.
Stock and ALMS are slower than F1, so, in my book, it's not a criminal move, it's merely temerary. That's a temerary move by both drivers: you could think that Magnussen knew he had no room.
It's not like they started the last straight side by side, you can move sideways once, and I think that if you don't know you can, you will lose every kart race with a close final. Maybe if you watch enough "smaller series", like BTCC, DTM, V8 Supercar or ALMS you could learn more about the fine line between legal and illegal moves: some seem frankly rude at first sight.
The spirit of a gentleman includes certain leniency when competition is involved, but also includes the strange bravery that leads you to receive hard "legal" hits with a smile and with the aim of learning. There are some situations you shouldn't poke your nose in (or if you do, you do it at your own peril, either for the team or out of desperation).
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