amouzouris wrote:im sorry not 1994...it was in 1986..watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QaPLeQt4fI
amouzouris wrote:1980 was certainly not the year with most downforce as i remember very well watching a video of Ross Brawn in 1994 i think and he was saying that cars now (1994) have as much downforce as the ground effect cars only with a lot more drag...
n smikle wrote:Ross Brawn said so like what 16 years ago? I bet he didn't know of the 2008 cars back then
In all seriousness the 2008 cars were the peak of downforce IMO... the front wings were not as low so it loses a bit in that - but most teams had effectly two wings!so that made up a bit. Then there were the huge diffuser, the huge rear wing, the winglets, the gills in the body work...
Look at the barge boards!
wesley123 wrote:I wouldnt say the 2004 cars had more df, the cars had much smaller wings, cascades were unknown back then, sidepods were way larger too and the sidepod wings were much smaller then.
the 2008 were much more refined and more evolved, like most said probably the end of the whole cycle that was possible with those.
Since around 2003 Aero came before mechanicals, and with the loss of df in 2005 teams were even more focussed on df, causing much more different configurations, just to keep the top speeds high enough, even sacrificing top speed. Since the 360(or was it 380)kph record set at Monza in 2004 teams never came close to that, I beleive since 2005 teams topped 340 max
HampusA wrote:Would be interesting if we could find apex speeds at Copse.
08 and 10 took it flat. 04 i don´t think they ever took it flat but the speed through the corner could have been higher due to the extra 200 horsepower 2004 cars had.
I would say 2010 probably had the most grip due to the tires helping quite alot and probably masks alot of the speed todays cars loose on straights.
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