Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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BGP001 Testing 09 Vs Honda RA108 bahrain GP 08

1) No sidepod bardgeboard as well as more waisted sidepods.
2) Smaller bardgeboard
3) No Viking horns
4) No Chimneys and Shark Fins for cooling
5) Changes rear wing
6) Nose design changed, as well as a more developed front wing
7) Front wheel fairings
8) Change in exaust location as well as a more aerodynamic solution to the exaust.

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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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You forgot the cascade winglet along the length of the sidepod :)
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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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1) Straignt rear wing
2) Seagul Wings & drooping nose. Nosecone started higher (see Jenson RA108 pic for comparison)
3) Spoon front wing
4) Viking Horns
5) Mock Camereas to aid aero
6) Warped "low downforce" rear wing
7) Elongated mirrors
8) Large, less sculpted air box
9) High and straigt rear wing
10) Low bulbus front nosecone
11) Mirrors, less elongated, also with aero aid for a mounting
12) Highly delevoped front wing
13) Smaller sidepods for better aero
14) Former large brake ducts, now more aero frendly

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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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=D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

Maybe i should start working on this comparison and offer my little contribution to this thread .
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ESPImperium
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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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Now i see how hard it is to do a photo comparison bar555. Trying to get the right photos and get them edited together. My hat comes off to you for keeping many updated and reesh and revealing.

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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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Don't be discouraged ,

you will perfect your skills if you keep trying and the outcome of your work will soon meet your expectations :wink:
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ESPImperium
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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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I have learnt alot so far, like a a good source of pic file orginisation and be paitent till you find the right piccie.

Im gonna keep working away, refining and developing what will be my style. As you have your style and way of expressing what is what on a car.

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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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Liking the comparisons ESP. Is the nose height difference due to the design or the camera angle?
"It could be done manually. It would take quite a while, but it could be done. There is however a much more efficient and accurate way of getting the data. Men with lasers." Wing Commander Andy Green

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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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roost89 wrote:Liking the comparisons ESP. Is the nose height difference due to the design or the camera angle?
Brawn BGP001 has a much lower and flatter nose cone compared to Honda RA108 . Probably the low flat nose cone of BGP001 is capable of generating a small amount of downforce .
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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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bar555 wrote:
roost89 wrote:Liking the comparisons ESP. Is the nose height difference due to the design or the camera angle?
Brawn BGP001 has a much lower and flatter nose cone compared to Honda RA108 . Probably the low flat nose cone of BGP001 is capable of generating a small amount of downforce .
Between the two RA108 photos, ESPImperium refers to Rubens' car as having a lower nose than that of Jensons car. The change made later in the season.
"It could be done manually. It would take quite a while, but it could be done. There is however a much more efficient and accurate way of getting the data. Men with lasers." Wing Commander Andy Green

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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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Ive got a couple of pics of the intrim front wing that Honda ran in late testing last year that im shure i can dig up for a comparison as well.

ESPImperium
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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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Here it is:

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The only remenant from the design of both wings is the venturi channel as circled i yellow, you can see how far the development came over the closed season.

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Re: Photo Comparison Brawn BGP001 - Honda RA108

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Rear & Diffuser:

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1) Flow director/deflector to aid rear wing effectivness
2) Rear wing twin splitter to aid flow of air thrugh the rear wing
3) Low directional exausts, quickest way to get rid of gases, may not be aero efficient
4) Diffuser of RA108, less effective that number 6
5) Louvers or shark gills, aids cooling (Illegal as of 2009)
6) Spoon or Dboule Deck Difuser (DDD), therefor the loss of overall loss of downforce on 2007 levels is arround 35% at maximum, most likley arround the 20% mark. Worth arround 5% of overall performance of the car, taking 1% as 0.1 of a second, thats worth arround .5 a second a lap, more likely arround the .7 second mark with the overall aero package in that aera of the car.
7) Covered exausts, aiming at rear wing to try and aid aero downforce with a little more downforce.
8) Extended engine cover. Guides air toward the rear better and minimises yaw at the same time, not as effective as the shark fin on the Red Bull RB5/Toro Rosso STR4/Toyota TF109/Renault R29, but still effective enough to help minimise negitive yaw.

You can also see the diffrence between the rear wings better, Wide and low of the RA108 and Tall and thin of the BGP001.