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[Wouter]

Adrian Newey's Red Bull F1 departure imminent

While the details of any separation are not known, it is anticipated that Newey will remain in his role for the time being before leaving Red Bull at the beginning of 2025 at the latest.

It is understood that Newey has communicated the reasons for his decision in an internal letter.

A decisive factor is said to have been his broken relationship with team boss Christian Horner in the wake of the power struggle that took place earlier in the year following the allegations made against him by a female employee.

This came after previous tensions, including an interview published at the end of last year where Horner said Newey's role had changed and that "the technical team under him, led by Pierre Wache, is doing a wonderful job so they are not dependent on Adrian."

Horner also said that football club Manchester United did not go under when star striker Eric Cantona left the team.

That interview did not go down well with Newey and was apparently perceived by him as Horner wanting to make himself important and minimise the contribution of others to the team's success.

Newey's wife Amanda even shared the interview on Twitter and commented: "What a load of hogwash."

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/adri ... /10605070/

[-wkst-]

Ralf Bach and Christian Nimmervoll published this first. They are also the two journalists, who got a lot of inside infos from Red Bull in this whole saga (from someone from the Austrian side of the team obviously).

[chrstphrln]

Max will finaly have to sweat a little, and having a less dominant car would make Horner think of getting a better driver than Perez.

Do you really think Max will stay at Red Bull under Horner?
After everything that has happened in recent months?
I see him somewhere else for 2026 at the latest.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he's already in another car in 2025.

[Dunlay]

Max will finaly have to sweat a little, and having a less dominant car would make Horner think of getting a better driver than Perez.

Do you really think Max will stay at Red Bull under Horner?
After everything that has happened in recent months?
I see him somewhere else for 2026 at the latest.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he's already in another car in 2025.

No driver is stupid to leave a good car. Max will never leave, so long as he is confident that Red Bull has the car to win races and championships. There is no place for morality in F1 and neither are there any permanent enemies.

[Cs98]

Some folks. Not even the wildest reports involving sex and secret takeovers satisfies their need for conspiracy. Always the need to take it to the next level. Liberty orchestrated everything! False flag operations! Just incredible stuff

[Cs98]

Max will finaly have to sweat a little, and having a less dominant car would make Horner think of getting a better driver than Perez.

Do you really think Max will stay at Red Bull under Horner?
After everything that has happened in recent months?
I see him somewhere else for 2026 at the latest.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he's already in another car in 2025.

No driver is stupid to leave a good car. Max will never leave, so long as he is confident that Red Bull has the car to win races and championships. There is no place for morality in F1 and neither are there any permanent enemies.

Disagree, it's not as simple as that. Morality is necessary to create an environment people want to work in. When you can't fulfill that obligation towards your employees people start to leave, Newey is the first big name casualty in that, and he may not be the last.

Max won't leave to a team that he doesn't believe in, but 2026 is around the corner and if he feels Merc will provide him with a similar shot to RB he might just go. Seems far fetched now, but the prospect of a RB without Newey, Max, and whoever Max brings with him is not as scary as what they are right now. Likewise, Merc going into a new engine regulation being bolstered by a driver like Verstappen could really energise their entire team.

[Watto]

Do you really think Max will stay at Red Bull under Horner?
After everything that has happened in recent months?
I see him somewhere else for 2026 at the latest.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he's already in another car in 2025.

No driver is stupid to leave a good car. Max will never leave, so long as he is confident that Red Bull has the car to win races and championships. There is no place for morality in F1 and neither are there any permanent enemies.

Disagree, it's not as simple as that. Morality is necessary to create an environment people want to work in. When you can't fulfill that obligation towards your employees people start to leave, Newey is the first big name casualty in that, and he may not be the last.

Max won't leave to a team that he doesn't believe in, but 2026 is around the corner and if he feels Merc will provide him with a similar shot to RB he might just go. Seems far fetched now, but the prospect of a RB without Newey, Max, and whoever Max brings with him is not as scary as what they are right now. Likewise, Merc going into a new engine regulation being bolstered by a driver like Verstappen could really energise their entire team.

Agree. I think Newey leaving only increased Max's chances of leaving. Still a lot to see how but see it happened now ore than I did a week or so ago. If Max is wary of the RBPT engine and Mercedes is well ahead Neweys departure may be something that has Max thinkiing

Espcially with reports Mercedes were to offer Max a

Mercedes will reportedly table reigning F1 champion Max Verstappen a staggering €150m ($A245m) per season offer in a bombshell bid to poach the Red Bull star from 2025.

OE24 claims the €150m per-year offer includes bonuses, but would still shatter Formula One pay records.

It is more than double Verstappen’s current salary at Red Bull, believed to be around $55m USD

Likewise though Marko saying Max is motivated by the fastest car and that right now is Red Bull. I think at the very least if Max was to move he would want some signs Mercedes was on the right track. Maybe by seasons end some good signs with the above mentioned.

[chrisc90]

Wouldn’t Merc have to buy him out of RB contract too?

[Seanspeed]

No driver is stupid to leave a good car. Max will never leave, so long as he is confident that Red Bull has the car to win races and championships. There is no place for morality in F1 and neither are there any permanent enemies.

Schumacher left Benetton in 1995 for Ferrari right after winning a championship.

Hamilton left Mclaren the year after they had basically designed a car as fast as the Red Bull in 2012, for a team that was worse at that point in time.

Alonso left Renault after winning a championship in 2006 for Mclaren.

Happens plenty, and even in other sports, where competitors sometimes just want a change of situation or to chase a paycheck or whatever.

[organic]

Wouldn’t Merc have to buy him out of RB contract too?

the idea is the escape clause via marko. marko could leave RB and this would allow Max to get out of his contract

[Dunlay]

Do you really think Max will stay at Red Bull under Horner?
After everything that has happened in recent months?
I see him somewhere else for 2026 at the latest.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he's already in another car in 2025.

No driver is stupid to leave a good car. Max will never leave, so long as he is confident that Red Bull has the car to win races and championships. There is no place for morality in F1 and neither are there any permanent enemies.

Disagree, it's not as simple as that. Morality is necessary to create an environment people want to work in. When you can't fulfill that obligation towards your employees people start to leave, Newey is the first big name casualty in that, and he may not be the last.

Max won't leave to a team that he doesn't believe in, but 2026 is around the corner and if he feels Merc will provide him with a similar shot to RB he might just go. Seems far fetched now, but the prospect of a RB without Newey, Max, and whoever Max brings with him is not as scary as what they are right now. Likewise, Merc going into a new engine regulation being bolstered by a driver like Verstappen could really energise their entire team.

Your statement of Newey leaving because of the Hornergate is a mere assumption, although it's conventional wisdom to tie them together. We simply don't know. But if it suits the argument, then that should be ok. Couldn't he have quit when they breached cost cap? Wasn't that a moral issue? Just a question.

[selvam_e2002]

Max will be IN RB till 2026 and in 2027 he may Join AM once Alonso resigned. This could happen 100%.

[Watto]

No driver is stupid to leave a good car. Max will never leave, so long as he is confident that Red Bull has the car to win races and championships. There is no place for morality in F1 and neither are there any permanent enemies.

Disagree, it's not as simple as that. Morality is necessary to create an environment people want to work in. When you can't fulfill that obligation towards your employees people start to leave, Newey is the first big name casualty in that, and he may not be the last.

Max won't leave to a team that he doesn't believe in, but 2026 is around the corner and if he feels Merc will provide him with a similar shot to RB he might just go. Seems far fetched now, but the prospect of a RB without Newey, Max, and whoever Max brings with him is not as scary as what they are right now. Likewise, Merc going into a new engine regulation being bolstered by a driver like Verstappen could really energise their entire team.

Your statement of Newey leaving because of the Hornergate is a mere assumption, although it's conventional wisdom to tie them together. We simply don't know. But if it suits the argument, then that should be ok. Couldn't he have quit when they breached cost cap? Wasn't that a moral issue? Just a question.

I’ve got no doubt the Horner issue played a key role in this but think too it’s hard to know what element of it was it how he treated the PA or that he has no interest in the internal politics at the team and has no real interest in picking a side?

[Cs98]

No driver is stupid to leave a good car. Max will never leave, so long as he is confident that Red Bull has the car to win races and championships. There is no place for morality in F1 and neither are there any permanent enemies.

Disagree, it's not as simple as that. Morality is necessary to create an environment people want to work in. When you can't fulfill that obligation towards your employees people start to leave, Newey is the first big name casualty in that, and he may not be the last.

Max won't leave to a team that he doesn't believe in, but 2026 is around the corner and if he feels Merc will provide him with a similar shot to RB he might just go. Seems far fetched now, but the prospect of a RB without Newey, Max, and whoever Max brings with him is not as scary as what they are right now. Likewise, Merc going into a new engine regulation being bolstered by a driver like Verstappen could really energise their entire team.

Your statement of Newey leaving because of the Hornergate is a mere assumption, although it's conventional wisdom to tie them together. We simply don't know. But if it suits the argument, then that should be ok. Couldn't he have quit when they breached cost cap? Wasn't that a moral issue? Just a question.

No assumptions. This has been reported as a key factor by several credible journalists. Do you want me to discount that to suit some narrative? Is that what you are doing?

[Watto]

Interesting Motorsport.com Newey is wary of Mercedes as he thinks there is too much work to be done there. If that is true- and a big if- then would imagine it would be a big red flag to Max.