2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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organic wrote:
03 May 2024, 22:39
So Zak Brown said Oscar is probably at a deficit of 0.2s/lap due to not running the full package. Stella estimated that Oscar had about "50%" of the package. So does that mean the total package is worth roughly 4 tenths?
That’s not how the math would work here, different parts could bring different amount of performance… Oscar could have gotten the 50% of the upgrade that creates the least of the most amount of lap time

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Landos fast time in q2 was on a second push lap. Maybe it's not the same warm up as it was.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:27
Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:26
Both McLarens overcooked the softs in less than 1 sector, I hope they can play around with pressures for tomorrow and avoid late stint deg
Was that the problem? How can you overcook the tyres?
Too much energy into the tyre. And that meant they couldn't keep it in the temperature window when cornering. It takes more energy to get the harder compounds into their operating window which can explain why Macca were so good on the medium.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:27
Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:26
Both McLarens overcooked the softs in less than 1 sector, I hope they can play around with pressures for tomorrow and avoid late stint deg
Was that the problem? How can you overcook the tyres?
You take turn 1, then you take turn 2, then you take turn 3 and by the time you reach turn 4 temperatures are off the charts ...

They have a straight after S1 and the slow S2 to cool off a bit before another straight so it's not a problem for the rest of the lap. But the car is putting way too much energy on the tires at the high tire-demand stuff in S1.
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organic wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:25
Car seems to be amazing though, so even if you are frustrated there is more than a silver lining.
For 1 race :D

But the team did their job and the car looks great.
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If I had to hazard a guess I would have said the tyres weren't in the right window in SQ3 and were pushed too hard. Seems that once the softs on this track slide once they fall apart.

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They just showed the car just wasn't quite working on the tyres. Not sure it's a mistake by either.

But, as said, it's all very new.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:27
Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:26
Both McLarens overcooked the softs in less than 1 sector, I hope they can play around with pressures for tomorrow and avoid late stint deg
Was that the problem? How can you overcook the tyres?
Too much heat and they lose grip and you slide. The biggest difference between tyres too cold and too hot is deg, cold tyres have a lot less deg than hot tyres
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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I just watched the lap from Lando. The team and himself sounded a little perplexed as to what happened. It looked like the tires were cold and Lando was sliding all over the place. Lando and his engineer were both confused, but when Lando was going into the pits he said “I’ll get it back tomorrow” and something like “ No, but good job the car was good”
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Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:26
Both McLarens overcooked the softs in less than 1 sector, I hope they can play around with pressures for tomorrow and avoid late stint deg
Are you sure? They looked better later in the lap. It almost looks like the tyres were cold and thus they had awful S1 but managed to claw it back after they got some heat into them? If they overcooked them it should be opposite, good S1 and bad later sectors.

Maybe the preparation lap was compromised or they just overestimated how hot it was.

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But..Lando was purple in sector 3? Did he stay purple? So tyres may have not gone, just didn't get there at the start.

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Norris was purple on his lap in S3. Tyres came to us, weren't going away from us it seems?

I think it's best to wait to see what they say.
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Having seen the onboards, tyres didn't seem to be in the window at all. No obvious braking too deep or pushing too much for both cars, the rear was just sliding everywhere in Sector 1. Our top speed looks significantly better tho so hopefully overtaking should be a bit more straightforward tomorrow. How many laps is the sprint? I think P4-5 for both cars would be a good result.

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If he went purple at Sector 3 then that must mean the tyres weren't warm enough when they started their lap possible from a compromised warm up lap.

It's a pity but I am confident that tomorrow we are gonna get pole and get many points here as the car seemed to be the fastest under normal circumstances.
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FittingMechanics wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:32
Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 23:26
Both McLarens overcooked the softs in less than 1 sector, I hope they can play around with pressures for tomorrow and avoid late stint deg
Are you sure? They looked better later in the lap. It almost looks like the tyres were cold and thus they had awful S1 but managed to claw it back after they got some heat into them? If they overcooked them it should be opposite, good S1 and bad later sectors.

Maybe the preparation lap was compromised or they just overestimated how hot it was.
Mclarens were awesome on Mediums. The harder the compound, the higher operating temp window. Softer tyres have to be treated with care on hot tracks, for McLaren this is definitely an issue. Tyres also cool down on straights so they can get back down into window in McLaren's case.

As I said after China, this trait worked in their favour and Norris did a great job taking this opportunity
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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