Mercedes W15

[Venturiation]

[Luscion]

[Farnborough]

Stating in listed modifications that underfloor volume change to bring load further forwards with this new floor.

I believe this W15 is their best chassis yet under these regulation, but learning just how to bring adaption to it is behind the curve, so far, in comparison with peers.

It wouldn't be a surprise to see it more competitive later in this season I feel.

[r85]

Stating in listed modifications that underfloor volume change to bring load further forwards with this new floor.

I believe this W15 is their best chassis yet under these regulation, but learning just how to bring adaption to it is behind the curve, so far, in comparison with peers.

It wouldn't be a surprise to see it more competitive later in this season I feel.

I think the W15 has balanced downforce, it's just too weak. But it's definitely a decent platform for them to build on top of.

[maygun]

Stating in listed modifications that underfloor volume change to bring load further forwards with this new floor.

I believe this W15 is their best chassis yet under these regulation, but learning just how to bring adaption to it is behind the curve, so far, in comparison with peers.

It wouldn't be a surprise to see it more competitive later in this season I feel.

I think the W15 has balanced downforce, it's just too weak. But it's definitely a decent platform for them to build on top of.

I think Allison said the main aim of this update is to fix the balance of the downforce/aeromap. Maybe as a chassis, it is a good platform but in terms of aero, it was not balanced so far leading to troubles in the corners (under steer in the entrance with following rear instability in the exit).

[Stu]

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All about the extraction baby!!

[Matt2725]

Well whatever the upgrades were meant to do, it's either made them slower or they've missed the mark on set up (again).

[Venturiation]

Well whatever the upgrades were meant to do, it's either made them slower or they've missed the mark on set up (again).

They brought downgrades

[PlatinumZealot]

Toto said these upgrades are a step in performance..


A step backwards!

[AMG.Tzan]

They’ve gone back and forth with this floor edge design a million times since 2022! That’s not new! They add multiple strakes and then they make it simpler again!

When are they going to add something new to this car? I get the feeling that the only thing that changed in 2024 are the sidepods and the suspension! The floor must have stayed the same, there’s no other explanation…

Same thing goes for the rear wings! 2 rear wing designs in 3 year…

[Hoffman900]

They’ve gone back and forth with this floor edge design a million times since 2022! That’s not new! They add multiple strakes and then they make it simpler again!

When are they going to add something new to this car? I get the feeling that the only thing that changed in 2024 are the sidepods and the suspension! The floor must have stayed the same, there’s no other explanation…

Same thing goes for the rear wings! 2 rear wing designs in 3 year…

The problem is is aero isn’t additive, you can’t just add something new here or there and expect it to work. So, what you see are small detail changes, typically because they’re constrained by the flow field as designed by that year’s concept.

For big changes to work, you have to change everything, starting at the nose / front wing, and working backward. That just doesn't work in the cost cap era.

Furthermore, it doesn’t matter what they do if they have correlation issues, because it’s never going to be right. As I said before, no one purposely designs a bad car from the get go, and if there are correlation issues, you could argue Merc is trying to fix things they can’t see in CFD or the WT… they’re trying to fix things they can’t see which means the fix is never guaranteed.

[Luscion]

Merc unloaded their rear wing, got 4kmh faster with no drs and gained an extra 2kmh with it open

[Vappy]

Merc unloaded their rear wing, got 4kmh faster with no drs and gained an extra 2kmh with it open

Impressive

[PlatinumZealot]

So basically everyone else is getting 10km/hr, and Merc can only manage 4km/hr. Yup...

[Luscion]

So basically everyone else is getting 10km/hr, and Merc can only manage 4km/hr. Yup...

Its not that bad tbh, Merc are now on par with Red Bull and Ferrari in straight line speed in Miami, Mclaren got slower and only Stake and AM got close to an added 10kmh improvement