TzeiTzei wrote:ESPImperium wrote:
However there is a rumore that LMS/WEC are to allow the 2014 V6s in for Le Mans, probably LMP2, for a budget of €5m a season per car, whitch will give the LMP2 guys 6 powertrains per season, 2 for Le Mans, 1 for testing and 3 more for WEC events, however the engines will be detuned from 700-750Hp for F1 to arround 525Hp for LMP2 for relyability as Le Mans will requre the engine to last at least 5,600km on average and probably closer to 7,000km for a race winner.
I think the LMP2s are currently limited to €325000, so €5m is probably way too much. In LMP1 however, nothing really prevents the teams from using detuned F1 engines from 2014 onwards. But once again due to the costs, manufacturer teams are probably the only ones capable of using them.
As for F1, well most of the teams can't afford the rumoured €20-30m price for engines. That's about half of HRT's yearly budget, so i wonder what they're gonna bolt on their cars.
True, but my guess is that the F1 engine suppliers will want to posibly sell by the unit as well, so if a team wants 2 units for Le Mans, €500,000 a unit will a decent figure.
As for the smaller teams in F1, the RRA is rumored to have a minimum budget as well, the figure ive heard is €85m a season, so that would give HRT and Marussia a headache, but would also give them €65m for a season. Sauber are doing this year on €95m, and are being used as the case study for the lower end RRA and budget cap regs as they are the 3rd worst funded team in F1 and look at their results this year.
The team that is being used as the upper limit case study is Lotus, who are operating from €180m pre Lotus pull out, whitch is now closer to €160m now.
However, when it comes to the best funded team on the grid, this year saw Ferrari passed by Red Bull, Ferrari have reduced their budget closer to what McLaren have, however still are arround €60m more than McLaren, Ferrari are operating a budget of €300m this year.
F1 Teams Budgets for 2012:
Red Bull-Renault = €265m - €380m Adjusted
McLaren-Mercedes = €250m
Scuderia Ferrari = €310m
Mercedes AMG F1 = €200m
Lotus-Renault = €180m - €160m Adjusted
Force India-Mercedes = €125m
Sauber-Ferrari = €85m
Toro Rosso-Ferrari = €115m
Williams-Renault = €115m
Caterham-Renault = €105m
HRT-Cosworth = €50m
Marussia-Cosworth = €70m
All figures rounded to nearest €5m as teams often get money from "hidden benifactors" who dont want to be named. Red Bull adjusted fiugure includes Toro Rossos budget without the backing of the young driver programme as well.
Engine suppliers will have plenty scope in 2014 onward to recoup their money.