2012 Japanese GP - Suzuka

[beelsebob]

it was racing incident at start, so there is no reason for punishment. the fact is that Kimi punctured Alons's tyre ''from behind'', after Alonso went in front of him.Kimi should have control his car better.

The fact is that if kimi punctured alonso's rear tyres with his front wing, then he must meet the FIA definition of "along side" not behind.

[radosav]

it was racing incident at start, so there is no reason for punishment. the fact is that Kimi punctured Alons's tyre ''from behind'', after Alonso went in front of him.Kimi should have control his car better.

The fact is that if kimi punctured alonso's rear tyres with his front wing, then he must meet the FIA definition of "along side" not behind.

if you look those two videos you have to see that after Kimi touched the gras he went back on track, and at that moment he was behind Alonso. so he punctured his tyre from behind.

[beelsebob]

it was racing incident at start, so there is no reason for punishment. the fact is that Kimi punctured Alons's tyre ''from behind'', after Alonso went in front of him.Kimi should have control his car better.

The fact is that if kimi punctured alonso's rear tyres with his front wing, then he must meet the FIA definition of "along side" not behind.

if you look those two videos you have to see that after Kimi touched the gras he went back on track, and at that moment he was behind Alonso. so he punctured his tyre from behind.

Uhhh... again, if front wing touches rear wheel, you meet the FIA definition of "along side". It's not even like the front wing touched the rear surface of the tyre – it impacted the side wall and broke off a cascade attached at the side of kimi's wing.

[radosav]

[/quote]Uhhh... again, if front wing touches rear wheel, you meet the FIA definition of "along side". It's not even like the front wing touched the rear surface of the tyre – it impacted the side wall and broke off a cascade attached at the side of kimi's wing.[/quote]



yes, if ?! go to LotusE20 thread and look at new cascade parts on LotusE20 front wing made for Suzuka.

[beelsebob]

What about them? They're at the front outer edge of the wing, you can clearly see in the video the cascade being pushed in from the side and then pung off.

[Dragonfly]

You omit the reasons why Kimi stepped on the grass resulting in an unstable car and need to react to return on the track.
It is not clear from shots and video clips but I think there might have been a previous touch of wheels causing the stepping off track.

[beelsebob]

You omit the reasons why Kimi stepped on the grass resulting in an unstable car and need to react to return on the track.
It is not clear from shots and video clips but I think there might have been a previous touch of wheels causing the stepping off track.

Kimi stepped on the grass because he was squeezed from the right, requiring him to... Which is incidentally, another violation of the above rule.

[Vanja #66]

The point is, it was Alonso's fault. Funny that Hamilton is being blamed for it hahaha

Hamilton's fault

What part of the "I'm being absurd just like you are (pointed to Raptor22)" about Hamilton don't you understand? So much defense for a driver which is usually attacking, who improved so much this year and made just one mistake (contrary to last year)...

Kimi stepped on the grass because he was squeezed from the right, requiring him to... Which is incidentally, another violation of the above rule.

Violation caused by Button's move to the left. It wasn't intentional, it was a reflexive reaction... There was no violation of the rule before Button's move.

[strad]

Well Like I said before,,You're entitled to your opinion but you're also gonna have to accept that there are many people who feel it was clearly Kimi's fault.

[andartop]

Everyone is entitled in their own opinion, of course, but since the stewards decided it was a racing incident and not worthy of punishing anyone about it why don't we all agree to call it that and leave it behind us?

[turbof1]

Everyone is entitled in their own opinion, of course, but since the stewards decided it was a racing incident and not worthy of punishing anyone about it why don't we all agree to call it that and leave it behind us?

You know you are making unrealistic demands towards a hard headed community don't you

[rodi]

Amazing race weekend....for Redbull. They were on another league since Fp1. It is going to be tough for ALO especially in Korea. More hints on http://www.rodibasso.wordpress.com

rodibasso

[GrizzleBoy]

Well Like I said before,,You're entitled to your opinion but you're also gonna have to accept that there are many people who feel it was clearly Kimi's fault.

+1.

We've always had to accept that crazy people exist in our society and this is just one of those times

[strad]

too true,,,too true

[xDama]

Well Like I said before,,You're entitled to your opinion but you're also gonna have to accept that there are many people who feel it was clearly Kimi's fault.

+1.

We've always had to accept that crazy people exist in our society and this is just one of those times

I've got exactly the same feeling about the people who think it was Raikkonen's fault. Alonso left him no space, pushed him into the grass and then went wide to enter the corner and touched Raikkonen's wing.

And when Alonso claims in interviews that Kimi should have lifted, he's the one who's clearly out of his mind.