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Renault's Cyril Abiteboul has revealed that the French manufacturer aims to continue its ascent in the engine department as the company is preparing a completely new platform, including novel technology that has not yet been seen on the track.
So Marko confirmed that Renault will bring more upgrades this year.As for Renault, Marko insisted he is happy with Red Bull's engine supplier. "In 2015 I was not smiling because we had no chance, and mostly not because of us," he said. "Now Renault is giving us a good engine, we will soon have an even better version and - most importantly - a completely new engine for 2017. I am sure that we will fight for the title," Marko added. (GMM)
They'll use any spin to pretend like it wasn't poaching Mercedes people to catch up, but regardless, just like Ferrari, it's what they did. The only difference is when Ferrari poached some MBHPE guys, the helmet claimed Merc was "helping" Ferrari.ReoPTy wrote:abitboul confirmed 2 ex renault french ingeneer from mercedes working on very specific technologies came back to viry home during the winter ..
http://www.autosport.com/premium/featur ... g-so-badly"It's a bit of everything," says Jolyon Palmer of the current car's weaknesses. "We're not very strong in a straight line, aero, mechanical, we're not good over bumps; there's not any area where we're great.
"We knew the Mercedes engine last year was carrying us a hell of a long way. We qualified fifth and sixth as Lotus in Montreal, then went to Silverstone and Hungary and didn't make Q3.
"We knew the engine was a big benefit and we can see that now with Manor - they outqualified us in Baku and nearly Montreal, because it's still a good step.
"There's a bigger difference between the engines in this era than the V8 era, and especially last year.
"Mercedes were clearly dominant, and we had the right engine [in 2015]. This year we're with Renault, which has got a lot of positives, but the engine is a step backwards.
"If we had a Mercedes engine probably we'd be looking a lot stronger."
Where do you get the info that the Renault doesn't have all the internal bodywork and ducting. I can't realistically believe that for any modern f1 car, regardless of a hasty redesign.Blackout wrote:BS. The RS16 which is a Lotus E23 that has been hastily modified in December last year to accommodante the completely different and more cumbersome Renault PU, dont even have a streamlined internal bodywork. And that partly explain the draggyness of the car. Bob Bell alluded to that many times. And the cooling system and internal packaging (and weight distribution?) are far from optimal, like Chester said. So the car is clearly very draggy. (and it certainly generates more DF/drag than its twin sister because it received some aero updates since 2015)
And the RS16 is generally faster than the E23. (except China where Mag couldnt do EL1,2,3 and setup his car properly for the 'new' Pirelli... (it was 3s faster in Barcelona)
So to say the new Renault is that weaker than the 2015 early Merc is complete nonsense.
Yes with a Merc PU it might perform better but mainly because the RS16-E23 was built around a Merc PU...
We'll see when Renault joins the Merc and Ferrari club and uses a prechamber (2016 Suzuka/Sepang?) and builds its first PU that has been designed around a particular car, a factory team car, in 2017...
