2017 Mclaren F1 Team - Honda

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etusch wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 17:25
Soichiro wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 15:52
As bad as Honda is in relation to peak power/consumption, how can they be sure that Mercedes engine would flatter the chassis in the same way as Honda is? Is it as tight, light and with equal or better COG? If not, can they calculate in the difference and how would that affect the S1 and S2 times?

I know McLaren has done the better (very good indeed) job this year, but I think some credit on that part should be given to Honda too.
They are talking very rude. Producing this kind of PU is much harder than making chassis and Mclaren couldn't do a winning chassis for a long time that gives Honda still a few years of tolerance if we give both side same amount of time
McLaren never had the worst chassis on the grid. Honda has the worst PU on the grid. Therefore they have been letting McLaren down in comparison to the chassis and they must take more blame.

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SameSame wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 18:32

McLaren never had the worst chassis on the grid. Honda has the worst PU on the grid. Therefore they have been letting McLaren down in comparison to the chassis and they must take more blame.
2013, 2014, 2015 ? Remember those numbers ?
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With Fernando mentioning that he could consider a full season in Indy. Does this mean possible drives for a top team are not materialising?
Always find the gap then use it.

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ronanharris09 wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 19:15
SameSame wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 18:32

McLaren never had the worst chassis on the grid. Honda has the worst PU on the grid. Therefore they have been letting McLaren down in comparison to the chassis and they must take more blame.
2013, 2014, 2015 ? Remember those numbers ?
Lol. But still you wouldn't say they had the worst chassis of the whole grid.

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My stream got cut out, couldn't see the retirement, but was smoke coming out of the back of the car?

Anyone else thinks that Alonso intentionally retired to deny Honda the satisfaction and turn up the pressure even more?
Never Give up.

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Sayeman wrote:My stream got cut out, couldn't see the retirement, but was smoke coming out of the back of the car?

Anyone else thinks that Alonso intentionally retired to deny Honda the satisfaction and turn up the pressure even more?
No
Always find the gap then use it.

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BanMeToo wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 19:26
ronanharris09 wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 19:15
SameSame wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 18:32

McLaren never had the worst chassis on the grid. Honda has the worst PU on the grid. Therefore they have been letting McLaren down in comparison to the chassis and they must take more blame.
2013, 2014, 2015 ? Remember those numbers ?
Lol. But still you wouldn't say they had the worst chassis of the whole grid.
What is your point? İf it is better than manor still it is not worst chassis ? Last year there not that much power deficit against Renault. Could they make podiums ?
I just want to say that they have to speak like team and make emphaty to Honda. They are talking as if someone mandated them Honda and they are not happy with it.

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Sayeman wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:47
My stream got cut out, couldn't see the retirement, but was smoke coming out of the back of the car?

Anyone else thinks that Alonso intentionally retired to deny Honda the satisfaction and turn up the pressure even more?

No, similar as what happened to Verstappen. A sudden system shutdown..

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JonoNic wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 19:20
With Fernando mentioning that he could consider a full season in Indy. Does this mean possible drives for a top team are not materialising?
Which top team will take him? Bridges burned everywhere, can't see any other option other than Renault, and they aren't really a top team, are they? Williams or Force India can't afford him
Never Give up.

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Niiek wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:49
Sayeman wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:47
My stream got cut out, couldn't see the retirement, but was smoke coming out of the back of the car?

Anyone else thinks that Alonso intentionally retired to deny Honda the satisfaction and turn up the pressure even more?

No, similar as what happened to Verstappen. A sudden system shutdown..
I heard grinding, something similar to what happened to him at Indy, just much quieter.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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proteus wrote:
Niiek wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:49
Sayeman wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:47
My stream got cut out, couldn't see the retirement, but was smoke coming out of the back of the car?

Anyone else thinks that Alonso intentionally retired to deny Honda the satisfaction and turn up the pressure even more?

No, similar as what happened to Verstappen. A sudden system shutdown..
I heard grinding, something similar to what happened to him at Indy, just much quieter.
Yes. He over revved the engine at Indy. Can you over rev a F1 PU?
Always find the gap then use it.

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JonoNic wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:53
proteus wrote:
Niiek wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:49



No, similar as what happened to Verstappen. A sudden system shutdown..
I heard grinding, something similar to what happened to him at Indy, just much quieter.
Yes. He over revved the engine at Indy. Can you over rev a F1 PU?
With Honda, lately everything is possible :) "THE POWER OF DREAMS"
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows

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Sayeman wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:50
JonoNic wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 19:20
With Fernando mentioning that he could consider a full season in Indy. Does this mean possible drives for a top team are not materialising?
Which top team will take him? Bridges burned everywhere, can't see any other option other than Renault, and they aren't really a top team, are they? Williams or Force India can't afford him
What bridges are you even talking about?

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makecry wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:59
Sayeman wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 21:50
JonoNic wrote:
11 Jun 2017, 19:20
With Fernando mentioning that he could consider a full season in Indy. Does this mean possible drives for a top team are not materialising?
Which top team will take him? Bridges burned everywhere, can't see any other option other than Renault, and they aren't really a top team, are they? Williams or Force India can't afford him
What bridges are you even talking about?
It was a figure of speech. Ferrari doesnt want him, Mercedes and Redbull doesnt need him, he doesnt want to be in the Mclaren, Renault is not in the position to fight for championship jet, others dont have the money or cars to do it and he si getting old. That about sums it up.
If i would get the money to start my own F1 team, i would revive Arrows