Hamilton Vs Rosberg 2014

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astracrazy wrote:And now the tools will starts claiming its coz of lewis driving
Sjamaan wrote:It's because of Lewis braking.
:mrgreen:

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Juzh wrote:Ham has a history of bullshitting his way out of messed up qualifying sessions (austria anybody?).
Yea talking of bullshit..
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Championship can still be tight after Germany if Hamilton manages to at least grab 2nd place making the gap 11 points which is nothing with so many races to go.

I just hope that the championship is not decided by what driver had the least amount of failures on his car.
Rosberg DNF last race and now another brake failure... not good at all even though they have a pace advantage.
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SectorOne wrote:
Juzh wrote:Ham has a history of bullshitting his way out of messed up qualifying sessions (austria anybody?).
Yea talking of bullshit..
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Championship can still be tight after Germany if Hamilton manages to at least grab 2nd place making the gap 11 points which is nothing with so many races to go.

I just hope that the championship is not decided by what driver had the least amount of failures on his car.
Rosberg DNF last race and now another brake failure... not good at all even though they have a pace advantage.
The Williamses are not gonna be an easy job around here.

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Yea that will be the hardest thing to get past. Should be a good race though, hopefully both Mercs will finish the race at least, starting to get a bit ridiculous now with the failures.
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SectorOne wrote:
Juzh wrote:Ham has a history of bullshitting his way out of messed up qualifying sessions (austria anybody?).
Yea talking of bullshit..
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Championship can still be tight after Germany if Hamilton manages to at least grab 2nd place making the gap 11 points which is nothing with so many races to go.

I just hope that the championship is not decided by what driver had the least amount of failures on his car.
Rosberg DNF last race and now another brake failure... not good at all even though they have a pace advantage.
To be honest, it will happen. Every race a Mercedes driver has a problem.

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For completeness, while this disappears into a mess, Merc confirmed that Hamilton had a right rear brake disk failure.

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beelsebob wrote:For completeness, while this disappears into a mess, Merc confirmed that Hamilton had a right rear brake disk failure.
You sure the rear? Autosport report it as FRONT right failure
The Mercedes Formula 1 team has revealed that a right front brake disc failure caused Lewis Hamilton's qualifying crash at the German Grand Prix.

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Well, now that situation is quite challenging, will Merc allow Lewis to gamble with Strategy? OR would they stick to "Same strategy for both drivers"? Looking at the SuperSoft losing life after one hot lap, it appears as if the race would be a 3 stopper for most and 2 stop for gamblers. With track being shorter, a three stopper would naturally be slower compared to a two stop. Any predictions how Lewis' race is going to face? Will get out of the mid-field mess unscathed or will someone take him out, piling more misery. #-o

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prince wrote:Well, now that situation is quite challenging, will Merc allow Lewis to gamble with Strategy? OR would they stick to "Same strategy for both drivers"? Looking at the SuperSoft losing life after one hot lap, it appears as if the race would be a 3 stopper for most and 2 stop for gamblers. With track being shorter, a three stopper would naturally be slower compared to a two stop. Any predictions how Lewis' race is going to face? Will get out of the mid-field mess unscathed or will someone take him out, piling more misery. #-o
They will 2-stop Lewis depending on where he is after the first 10 or so laps. I "expect" him to be around 7th by then and I think Merc will do everything they can for Lewis to help maximize WCC points.

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prince wrote:Well, now that situation is quite challenging, will Merc allow Lewis to gamble with Strategy? OR would they stick to "Same strategy for both drivers"? Looking at the SuperSoft losing life after one hot lap, it appears as if the race would be a 3 stopper for most and 2 stop for gamblers. With track being shorter, a three stopper would naturally be slower compared to a two stop. Any predictions how Lewis' race is going to face? Will get out of the mid-field mess unscathed or will someone take him out, piling more misery. #-o
I doubt they'll be using the same strategy this time, the only chance of them racing each other tomorrow is a SC after Hamilton gets up into 2nd. Rosberg will have optimum race-time strategy and Hamilton will be largely dependant on what's happening in the race, reacting to others, releasing into clean air, etc.

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prince wrote:Well, now that situation is quite challenging, will Merc allow Lewis to gamble with Strategy? OR would they stick to "Same strategy for both drivers"?
Why should he gamble? Merc is choosing always the best strategy prior the race. So if the Option tire is the best for the first stint, they will use the Option tire and if not, they will choose the Prime...

I don ot know, why this "same strategy" thing is still discussed. They found out in Silverstone that they could go longer from Rosbergs tires. It would have been unfair to put Hamilton on another strategy due to that knowledge.
prince wrote: Looking at the SuperSoft losing life after one hot lap,
This is wrong. The Williams did nice laptimes on 8 laps old Options in Q3.
prince wrote: it appears as if the race would be a 3 stopper for most and 2 stop for gamblers. With track being shorter, a three stopper would naturally be slower compared to a two stop.
You gamble if you have a slow car that is hard to overtake. Lewis has the fastest car and the best car for overtaking...so why should he gamble?
prince wrote: Any predictions how Lewis' race is going to face? Will get out of the mid-field mess unscathed or will someone take him out, piling more misery. #-o
I think they will go for the Option tire to get him in front fast. No Prime runner will be a task in the first 10 rounds.
For the start: No good starters around, Merc is extremely strong at the start. With a normal start on Options like in Austria he will get Raikkonen at the first corner. Button will wave him by as usual, for the ForceIndias he will need DRS. The only thing that could be a problem is a DRS-train with the FIs. Due to tire usage an early stop, with undercut for the Williams.
He will be on P2 after the first round of pitstops.
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Waywardism wrote:
prince wrote:Well, now that situation is quite challenging, will Merc allow Lewis to gamble with Strategy? OR would they stick to "Same strategy for both drivers"? Looking at the SuperSoft losing life after one hot lap, it appears as if the race would be a 3 stopper for most and 2 stop for gamblers. With track being shorter, a three stopper would naturally be slower compared to a two stop. Any predictions how Lewis' race is going to face? Will get out of the mid-field mess unscathed or will someone take him out, piling more misery. #-o
I doubt they'll be using the same strategy this time, the only chance of them racing each other tomorrow is a SC after Hamilton gets up into 2nd. Rosberg will have optimum race-time strategy and Hamilton will be largely dependant on what's happening in the race, reacting to others, releasing into clean air, etc.
Nah, Hamilton will start on the harder tyre, and run a reverse strategy. That strategy is basically as fast as the forward strategy, with a few minor issues (like having to pass a lot of cars late in the race to make it work). I expect him to jump 3-4 cars off the start, and be around 7th to 10th by the end of the first lap.

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Hopefully it rains tomorrow and everything is mixed up, anything to get both of them fighting each other to be honest, it's always exciting to watch.
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I think all hell will break loose in T1. That´s a tight, nasty and fast corner made for wrecks to happen.
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The first 3 turns of Hockenheim are potential lap 1 disasters.