As long as Alonso wins for Briatore thats ok.elFranZ wrote:Or even Massa crashing at Rascasse, who knows...FakeAlonso wrote:If someone like Briatore was there maybe we would have seen a more aggressive approach.
As long as Alonso wins for Briatore thats ok.elFranZ wrote:Or even Massa crashing at Rascasse, who knows...FakeAlonso wrote:If someone like Briatore was there maybe we would have seen a more aggressive approach.
Always complaining after Alonso beat Hamilton. You wouldn't argue about the start incidence if Hamilton finished ahead of Alonso. Blaming Alonso for a racing incident which happened at the start (most possible time and place for contacts) with Hamilton's mistakes of last year is just an indication of being in full of hatred against Ferrari and Alonso.Shrieker wrote:Hint: They're not going to strip Alonso's podium...
And... People blaming Grosjean for driving into Schumi. Really ?!? What was he supposed to do ? He got banged from the right and a racing driver's reflex to that is obvious. Too bad Michael was there. The odd thing is, had Michael not lifted (which was also a reflex) his car wouldn't have lost it's speed and Grosjean's rear left wouldn't have made contact. It could've given Grosjean a vital tenth of a second to go to right again. But I don't think Grosjean and Schumi are at fault at all.
So you're okay with not really having an idea who or what is around you on the racetrack? Disagree. Whatever you think of my example he could have done a fair bit better.stefan_ wrote:We are talking Formula 1 here, not youd daily traffic stiuations for god's sake. Stop giving awareness advices based on what you experience during daily traffic. And in karting if you are not agressive you can as well pack your bags and do ballet.
I am not OK with not being aware of what is happening around you, that was not my point. My problem is with examples about what you would have done in daily traffic being extrapolated into F1 situations.Red Schneider wrote:So you're okay with not really having an idea who or what is around you on the racetrack? Disagree. Whatever you think of my example he could have done a fair bit better.stefan_ wrote:We are talking Formula 1 here, not youd daily traffic stiuations for god's sake. Stop giving awareness advices based on what you experience during daily traffic. And in karting if you are not agressive you can as well pack your bags and do ballet.
Where did Shrieker even mention Hamilton? Or am I missing something here?kemalcan wrote:Always complaining after Alonso beat Hamilton. You wouldn't argue about the start incidence if Hamilton finished ahead of Alonso. Blaming Alonso for a racing incident which happened at the start (most possible time and place for contacts) with Hamilton's mistakes of last year is just an indication of being in full of hatred against Ferrari and Alonso.Shrieker wrote:Hint: They're not going to strip Alonso's podium...
And... People blaming Grosjean for driving into Schumi. Really ?!? What was he supposed to do ? He got banged from the right and a racing driver's reflex to that is obvious. Too bad Michael was there. The odd thing is, had Michael not lifted (which was also a reflex) his car wouldn't have lost it's speed and Grosjean's rear left wouldn't have made contact. It could've given Grosjean a vital tenth of a second to go to right again. But I don't think Grosjean and Schumi are at fault at all.
Even Hamilton started to change his attitude this year and accept his past bad behavior and try to keep calm and matured every time he interviewed after poor performances of this year, you better reconsider your imaginary facts about punishments against Hamilton.
He said: “The guys hold the pit-boards over the track and two or three slips fell out and hit me in the front of the helmet. I was like, ‘This is getting ridiculous’ as they kept dropping them."
I have to agree.foxmulder_ms wrote:I was bored during the race. It was a first for this season. I don't like Monaco at all.
+1beelsebob wrote:I have to agree.foxmulder_ms wrote:I was bored during the race. It was a first for this season. I don't like Monaco at all.
Last things first, difficult to say. Vettel, Hulkenberg, Ricciardo, the Virgins and Kovalainen cut the corner as far as I could see. Vettel probably gained a place on Raikonnen this way (although he was in front before it), Hulkenberg stays where he was pretty much, but Senna for example didn't cut and was 10th after the first corner. I'm not happy with the corner solution though. Part of this race is the first corner of the race and if you just can avoid incidents by cutting the corner, why qualify at all?Paul wrote:Well, it is a special case. I am sure I am not the only one who each year gets all excited as the week starts, then gets frustrated wuth the race itself (with few exceptions), but next year it's all the same. Can't say I have same feeling for Valencia street circuit. Montreal and Singapore are a bit closer in that regard.
And each year when I see an on-board shot for the first time, even if it's installation lap in practice, I am in awe. Even this year, when I got utterly board toward the end of the race, for a second I imagined myself in Webber's position and again was impressed- dry lap here is like a wet lap on most other circuits, one miscalculation of grip available in the corner, and you're out.
By the way, anyone with a recording can do an analysis of who gained how many places by cutting the first corner? Might be interesting...