Williams FW32 Cosworth

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Roland Ehnström
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Wow, the new Cosworth engine actually sounds like the old DFV! At least on low revs. Did they do that on purpose? Am I just being nostalgic?

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running a cross plane?
since revs are limited at 18,000 and new rules require efficiency rather than raw power..

since the piston weight is low and rod is short and there is a limit on how low the engine can be, it could rev 20k at '06, a smooth 17,000 are likely

that could also explain the lack or rear wing support

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Ive seen the high res of this photo, the exhaust in on the flat upper surface of the sidepod. approximaitely below the B on RBS

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scarbs wrote:Ive seen the high res of this photo, the exhaust in on the flat upper surface of the sidepod. approximaitely below the B on RBS
Scarbs, in your opinion -- is it that much shorter than Ferrari and McLaren as it seems? If so, how they managed to package everything?

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mike wrote:running a cross plane?
since revs are limited at 18,000 and new rules require efficiency rather than raw power..

since the piston weight is low and rod is short and there is a limit on how low the engine can be, it could rev 20k at '06, a smooth 17,000 are likely

that could also explain the lack or rear wing support
I'm going to reserve judgement but I will say it does sound like a crossplane engine to me.
With the engine freeze they would have had time to make a crossplane as powerful as a normal plane engine. If they have managed to do it they will have a seriously good engine.
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it is the same engine block that was homologated in 2006

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Transverse gearbox, or perhaps planetary one?

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ISLAMATRON wrote:it is the same engine block that was homologated in 2006
True. + the obvious "reliability tweaks" thrown in for good measure.

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jac wrote:
ISLAMATRON wrote:it is the same engine block that was homologated in 2006
True. + the obvious "reliability tweaks" thrown in for good measure.
and whatever other tweaks they wanted as they are allowed to change whatever they want until it is re-homologated after the first race I believe.

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they could change everything they want, the FIA wants back to teams using cheap cosworths, so cosworth can easily 'promote' their engine by develop it much more then the other teams can do.
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Could somebody please explain to an idiot what a crossplane engine is and what the advantages of this would be?

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wesley123 wrote:they could change everything they want, the FIA wants back to teams using cheap cosworths, so cosworth can easily 'promote' their engine by develop it much more then the other teams can do.
Wrong again, as usual Wesley :wink: , they cannot change whatever they want, only the things which the teams were allowed to change from 2006 until today... and they can not "develop" it past when it is re-homologated after(or maybe just before) Bahrain GP.

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djones wrote:Could somebody please explain to an idiot what a crossplane engine is and what the advantages of this would be?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossplane

I believe the advantage would be a "smoother" power delivery (not sure what this means in the real world), with the disadvantage of a heavier (possibly bulkier?) engine.

EDIT: A smoother power delivery implies less vibration. However, as the cars already withstand the vibrations of the flatplane, are there any advantages to a crossplane?
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The sidepods are a bit similar to the FW30 hybrid car.

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I've tried to get some still frames of the video to try and see something, especally the difusor. It looks good. Any opinions? :?:

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