McLaren MP4-27 Mercedes (pre-launch speculation)

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That's an interesting point you raise - the MP4-25/26 nose in itself is already 2012-legal I think, or you could maybe lower the whole thing slightly and it would be legal. I wonder. The concept has served them relatively well. Surely with 2 years of running data of the nose, they would stick with a nose design concept that is already legal, rather than a rethink to a CT-01 nose anyways?
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raymondu999 wrote:From page 34 :mrgreen:
raymondu999 wrote:After all this speculation; it would be an absolute tragedy if the MP4-27 turned out to be a very conservative, no-frills design :lol:
Having said that, I don't it will be the case. But it would be an absolute tragedy if it was.
depends which way you look at it. The RB7 design wasn't really any frills like the U pods or the blade roll hope etc. They just done the basics better than anyone else and got every single part working well together.

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Surely a no frills design would be a radical departure after the last 2 years?

No one will be complaining if gets results.

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McLaren is bracing itself for a battle over the legality of its new MP4-27


"There are technical innovations on the car which will be immediately obvious when you see them," said McGrath, who added that McLaren is "getting ready for a fight" over its new machine.



It's going to be an exciting season!!!

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Now here is a car under a sheet we CAN speculate on:

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Definately no "croc" nose. The interesting thing for me is the shape of the sidepods and around the cockpit. It looks as if there might be similar extended turning vanes like what we have heard about the new F12. Ther first thing I thought of when i was the bumps were outboard wingmirrors (although now illegal).

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I made the same mistake it's the MP4-25:

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and from F1 FANATIC - MP4-25 Launch:

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= same image.

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Is that a connected sharkfin at the back? I thought they were banned?

Strike that. Just realised it's the MP4-25.

C'mon Mclaren put us out of our misery and show us a picture!! [-o<
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What time tomorrow is the launch?

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Holm86 wrote:What time tomorrow is the launch?
Coverage starts at 11 AM GMT on the McLaren webiste.

Early lunch break for me!

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astracrazy wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:From page 34 :mrgreen:
raymondu999 wrote:After all this speculation; it would be an absolute tragedy if the MP4-27 turned out to be a very conservative, no-frills design :lol:
Having said that, I don't it will be the case. But it would be an absolute tragedy if it was.
depends which way you look at it. The RB7 design wasn't really any frills like the U pods or the blade roll hope etc. They just done the basics better than anyone else and got every single part working well together.
I meant not in terms of car performance - I meant, in terms of the banter here. We have pages and pages of excited speculation, and if they came up with a no-frills car, then it would have been much ado over nothing.
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There is something very odd going on. Autosport were running a story regarding potential challenges to the 27 which had the following link and title:

McLaren ready for legality fight over new MP4-27‎

It has now been taken down, however. What did it say that was controversial enough to remove it? I note that sky have put up a report based on that story, but I'm not seeing anything particularly controversial in it.

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horse wrote:There is something very odd going on. Autosport were running a story regarding potential challenges to the 27 which had the following link and title:

McLaren ready for legality fight over new MP4-27‎

It has now been taken down, however. What did it say that was controversial enough to remove it? I note that sky have put up a report based on that story, but I'm not seeing anything particularly controversial in it.

McLaren ready for legal fight
Plenty!!! lol at McLaren

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Edit: You're welcome Raymond! :))
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Fantastic work Crucial! Cheers mate
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Thanks Crucial. Good work on recovering the original. I'm still not seeing anything particularly revealing and the only controversial part might be that he seems to be a little in conflict with Martin Whitmarsh's "logical evolution".

I mean what's wrong with saying that you'll see the obvious stand-out parts? Or that they want to make it quick over a single lap? IDK

EDIT: Perhaps McLaren didn't like the word "whupping" in relation to their own team???
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Perhaps the controversy lies around the last 2 paragraphs?

I'm very curious though. How do the engineers know, "definitely" that their car is faster? Ok, they can run simulations to know the max theoretical pace of their car. But how do they know it of the RBR? Mods, if you feel this is digressing too much, feel free to move the post.
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