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Hamilton saying fearing someone; however, reminds me a lot of how Schumi revered Hakkinen.Lewis Hamilton wrote:We all believe we are the best and that is what you have to do, unless you like to finish second. The best are Alonso, Vettel and Rosberg; who I have known since I was 13. Rosberg is about to burst through and he will at any time. Sebastian is in a great period with Red Bull and has a lot of confidence.
Fernando is very talented and is fully supported by his team. The whole team supports and follows him. It is he who leads Ferrari. I am not saying it is good or bad; it is just the route they have chosen.
+1... =D>richard_leeds wrote:I don't see any fear in that, only a realistic appraisal.
How can anyone see fear when he starts with "We all believe we are the best and that is what you have to do, unless you like to finish second."
These guys are rational and cold hearted. Their job is to make the best of their car, team and talent. There can't be any space for emotion or they'll slip down the grid.
Its only folk on forums who conjure up "Vettel fears Hamilton". That's silly, Vettel is racing against whoever happens to be behind or in front of him, machine against machine.
I'm pretty sure what you're seeing is just the normal progression of a tyre through a qualifying lap. They will inevitably lose pace through the lap. If you get them fully hot on the warm up lap, they'll have gone off by the end of the quick lap, instead, the drivers get them nearly there, have an understeery start to the lap as they get fully up to temp, and the tyres are just going off at the end. The understeery start is better than a no-traction end at most places.timbo wrote:While we are here, I watched Vettel's onboard from the Singapore and a thought striked me -- when he begins a lap, the front of the car is stubborn, and it really starts to "grip in" only at the second sector. It really comes alive at third.
Same thing happened in Hungary.
I wonder, whether it's intrinsic relationship between the car and the tyres, and Vettel simply cannot get enough hit on the out-lap, or whether Vettel plays really smart and maxxes the performances by preparing the tyres for the all-important fiddly parts of the track?
richard_leeds wrote:I don't see any fear in that, only a realistic appraisal.
How can anyone see fear when he starts with "We all believe we are the best and that is what you have to do, unless you like to finish second."
These guys are rational and cold hearted. Their job is to make the best of their car, team and talent. There can't be any space for emotion or they'll slip down the grid.
Its only folk on forums who conjure up "Vettel fears Hamilton". That's silly, Vettel is racing against whoever happens to be behind or in front of him, machine against machine.
I agree somewhat but it could be the way the drivers prime the tyres. A shining example is on the Bridgestone tyres in China Last year(I know, not pirelli but you can imagine the pirellis being even more sensitive!). Hamilton experimented with pushing hard out in the first sector and Button experimented with conserving until the second sector. The results were interesting. Hamilton's sector one and sector two times were amazing but his sector three time was horrid. Button OTOH had a not so bad sector 1 but amazing sector 2 and impressive sector 3. The balance of the second method proved better as Button out-qualified Hamilton by a tenth overall and tyres in better condition at the end of Q3.beelsebob wrote:I'm pretty sure what you're seeing is just the normal progression of a tyre through a qualifying lap. They will inevitably lose pace through the lap. If you get them fully hot on the warm up lap, they'll have gone off by the end of the quick lap, instead, the drivers get them nearly there, have an understeery start to the lap as they get fully up to temp, and the tyres are just going off at the end. The understeery start is better than a no-traction end at most places.timbo wrote:While we are here, I watched Vettel's onboard from the Singapore and a thought striked me -- when he begins a lap, the front of the car is stubborn, and it really starts to "grip in" only at the second sector. It really comes alive at third.
Same thing happened in Hungary.
I wonder, whether it's intrinsic relationship between the car and the tyres, and Vettel simply cannot get enough hit on the out-lap, or whether Vettel plays really smart and maxxes the performances by preparing the tyres for the all-important fiddly parts of the track?
Fear is not the right word here. To the drivers it doesn't matter who is behind them. Vettel slipped off in Canada because he pushed like a mad man to secure P1 from much, much faster Button. That tiny error had large effect on the wet track. Fear? No, just awareness that he has to give it all in order to not lose it on the DRS straight.n smikle wrote:Evidence is that Vettel slipped off a simple turn in Hungary while being pursued by Hamilton. He also slipped off the track when chased by Button in Canada. Only fear can make things like that happen. I'm not talking about making a mistake like driving on a curb, I mean just flat out sliding off the track.
Hamilton for example has slid off the track TWICE in 2010 after being chased by Alonso. Did he fear Alonso at the time. I think YES he feared Alonso at that time.
ps. Is fear the right word to use?
