Actually ray, it was moving backwards.raymondu999 wrote:To be fair it wasn't really the BGP001 moving backwards was it? More like hte others overtaking it (in terms of pecking order)
Idd. He seems to be the fastest in his own (and his fans') head, rather than on real life on track. He won 1 WC with all the luck in the world against someone who now clearly appears to be not one of the top drivers. As the most nurtured driver ever, he has proven nothing really.jamsbong wrote:"Embarrassment for Hamilton? The Reborn Button..."???
I think Button's rebirth came in 2010. Hamilton had his one hit wonder, just like Villeneuve in the 90s. Unless Hamilton has the required intelligence and focus, I highly doubt that he will be able to win as long as drivers like Button, Vettel, Alonso is around. Then there is Schumacher and Raikkonen who could easily spoil Hamilton's day if their car is performing at the same level.
I always feel like throwing up when I hear him say "I'm Lewis Hamilton, a world champion" from the Tag Heuer ad.
I m not the biggest Hamilton Fan but he has proven a lot. He embarrassed Alonso in 2007 finishing higher than him( Alonso, the best driver since Senna and Schumacher era, I m serious), he didn't score the title 2007 because of bad luck, he won the title 2008 against a mentally stable Massa, he finished higher than Button in 2010 (despite all his mistakes). He is made out o the same wood like Alonso. He is definitely faster than Button, but his problem are the Pirelli tyres and his psyche.jdlive wrote:Idd. He seems to be the fastest in his own (and his fans') head, rather than on real life on track. He won 1 WC with all the luck in the world against someone who now clearly appears to be not one of the top drivers. As the most nurtured driver ever, he has proven nothing really.jamsbong wrote:"Embarrassment for Hamilton? The Reborn Button..."???
I think Button's rebirth came in 2010. Hamilton had his one hit wonder, just like Villeneuve in the 90s. Unless Hamilton has the required intelligence and focus, I highly doubt that he will be able to win as long as drivers like Button, Vettel, Alonso is around. Then there is Schumacher and Raikkonen who could easily spoil Hamilton's day if their car is performing at the same level.
I always feel like throwing up when I hear him say "I'm Lewis Hamilton, a world champion" from the Tag Heuer ad.
For once, we totally agree.FrukostScones wrote:I m not the biggest Hamilton Fan but he has proven a lot. He embarrassed Alonso in 2007 finishing higher than him( Alonso, the best driver since Senna and Schumacher era, I m serious), he didn't score the title 2007 because of bad luck, he won the title 2008 against a mentally stable Massa, he finished higher than Button in 2010 (despite all his mistakes). He is made out o the same wood like Alonso. He is definitely faster than Button, but his problem are the Pirelli tyres and his psyche.jdlive wrote:Idd. He seems to be the fastest in his own (and his fans') head, rather than on real life on track. He won 1 WC with all the luck in the world against someone who now clearly appears to be not one of the top drivers. As the most nurtured driver ever, he has proven nothing really.jamsbong wrote:"Embarrassment for Hamilton? The Reborn Button..."???
I think Button's rebirth came in 2010. Hamilton had his one hit wonder, just like Villeneuve in the 90s. Unless Hamilton has the required intelligence and focus, I highly doubt that he will be able to win as long as drivers like Button, Vettel, Alonso is around. Then there is Schumacher and Raikkonen who could easily spoil Hamilton's day if their car is performing at the same level.
I always feel like throwing up when I hear him say "I'm Lewis Hamilton, a world champion" from the Tag Heuer ad.
His team gave the best in Australia to let him finish in the best position possible, why should they favor him over Button while in 2nd position, there was no need to do it. Vettel overtook him because Vet was at times faster and a bit lucky.
That Hamilton was angry after the race is understandable, but he should not be angry at his team, he should be angry at Pirelli, but the main thing is that he also should try to relax and take a systematic approach in curing his mental and tyre related problems. Counseling should be an option (I highly recommend this also to Massa, his problem is not Hungary 2009, but Alonso and mean not the speed of Alonso).
He has proven it on more than one occasion that he is a talented driver and is pretty fast too. His natural racing abilities are well known to everyone in the racing fraternity. He can extract the best out of any car. The only problem is, he has failed to do it consistently like some of his peers have done over the years. Somehow, he just seems pretty fragile at most instances.jdlive wrote:
Idd. He seems to be the fastest in his own (and his fans') head, rather than on real life on track. He won 1 WC with all the luck in the world against someone who now clearly appears to be not one of the top drivers. As the most nurtured driver ever, he has proven nothing really.
This is strange because the lap time data shows that Button started off much faster than Hamilton.Just_a_fan wrote:Anyone who thinks that Hamilton is slow needs their head examining. Even Button has admitted that Hamilton is worryingly fast.
Hamilton's problem is that he is fast no matter what. And if the car is killing the tyres when it is fast then his speed plays against him fairly quickly.
Button's style is nearly as quick as Hamilton's but, crucially, it is kinder to the tyres. A case of tortoise and hare, it seems.
An interesting tweet to Brundle suggets that 77% of drivers who have won the first race of the season have gone on to win the title since 1990. If that is true, then Hamilton has got his work cut out to rebalance the odds.
I'm guessing that the 77% stat doesn't take account of the fact that in most teams there is a definite fast and slow driver (these being relative terms, of course). Where both drivers for a team are closely matched I'm betting the the result lies somewhat in the remaining 23% of races...
n smikle wrote:Button was only faster for those first twelve laps.. there must be something that he was doing or something different with his tyres.
http://www.thef1times.com/news/display/05621#page_topAfter Australia, you said you weren’t sure how you’d lost pace relative to Jenson: do you now understand that, and does that put you in a good position for Malaysia?
“Yeah, after the race in Australia, it was difficult to understand exactly what happened. I was generally happy with the car all weekend, but just lacked a bit of pace compared to Jenson in the race. Afterwards, I sat down with my engineers and we went through all the data. There was a small issue with the clutch at the start: it wasn’t my fault, but we now understand and know how to improve in the future. My race pace was pretty much identical to Jenson’s, but he was able to switch the tyres on extremely well, which explains how he was able to pull a gap so quickly at the start and also after the restart.
Well, if by braking slightly earlier he carries more speed onto the apex, compared to Hamilton's late apex-aggressive turn-in, than he probably generates more heat from lateral loads?n smikle wrote:Ah thanks Pup, that pretty much satisfies my suspiscions..
So IRONICALLY Button switches on the tyres faster than Hamilon!!
Do you know the implications of that folks?! who would have thought it?
Hamilton better figure that 'ish out quick!
It's a game of hundredths of the seconds and so far I've seen only comparisons of the all-out qualy laps, we should look at what they do in the race.raymondu999 wrote:I don't think they really take different lines anymore nowadays - look at recent 2011 onboards by them. Both trail brake right up to the apex.
In that regard he is more like a more talented Trulli or Fisichella. He can and is fast but only when in the right frame of mind. Trulli and Fisichella were perhaps a less capable of driving around car issues but are much the same. They are mighty fast (Trulli especially so over one lap) but find it hard to stomach when they aren't driving as well as they can.Robbobnob wrote:IMO he is his own worst enemy. Doesn't seem to have that steely resolve that many of the top drivers seem to have, instead he lets his under performance consume him.
