Red Bull RB8 Renault

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Hey! long time lurker newbie here..... I think there is an alternate solution to this...... instead of placing the slot (i mean slit-that-one-can't-pass-a-piece-of-paper-through) in front of the rear wheel, can't it be placed beside the tyre (on the inside) ahead of the wheel hub..... in that case the tyre wall will seal the slit on one side making it a slot that is just a slit on the floor..... just a doubt.... would appreciate if somebody clarifies this
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Because at that point they are trying to extract air from the diffuser and seal it (which is what the EBD and the little wheel winglets try to do). Infront of the wheel is where tyre squirt needs to be controlled.
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Diff-user wrote:Hey! long time lurker newbie here..... I think there is an alternate solution to this...... instead of placing the slot (i mean slit-that-one-can't-pass-a-piece-of-paper-through) in front of the rear wheel, can't it be placed beside the tyre (on the inside) ahead of the wheel hub..... in that case the tyre wall will seal the slit on one side making it a slot that is just a slit on the floor..... just a doubt.... would appreciate if somebody clarifies this
Because of the regulations they aren't allowed any discontinuous surfaces in the step plane apart from at that last 50 mm. This is the rule that was implemented to initially stop open ended EBD.
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Robbobnob wrote:
Diff-user wrote:Hey! long time lurker newbie here..... I think there is an alternate solution to this...... instead of placing the slot (i mean slit-that-one-can't-pass-a-piece-of-paper-through) in front of the rear wheel, can't it be placed beside the tyre (on the inside) ahead of the wheel hub..... in that case the tyre wall will seal the slit on one side making it a slot that is just a slit on the floor..... just a doubt.... would appreciate if somebody clarifies this
Because of the regulations they aren't allowed any discontinuous surfaces in the step plane apart from at that last 50 mm. This is the rule that was implemented to initially stop open ended EBD.
Oh damn!..... well so much for an "alternate solution"....though i couldn't really see anything that set RB8 apart from rest of the front runners in the last six GPs (though the constructors points table says otherwise).... it'd interesting to see how the car performs this weekend with a "legal" floor....
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Dr Marko:
"We had not planned to use this floor in Montreal anyway," Marko said. "We had prepared a different configuration using a flat version of the floor. Therefore we do not need to modify the cars in Canada."
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Gridlock wrote:Dr Marko:
"We had not planned to use this floor in Montreal anyway," Marko said. "We had prepared a different configuration using a flat version of the floor. Therefore we do not need to modify the cars in Canada."
only cheaters can prepare in advance floor configuration, this can only be because they knew what will happend =D>

This is not an insult but a compliment

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You need to work on your compliments...
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Neno wrote:
Gridlock wrote:Dr Marko:
"We had not planned to use this floor in Montreal anyway," Marko said. "We had prepared a different configuration using a flat version of the floor. Therefore we do not need to modify the cars in Canada."
only cheaters can prepare in advance floor configuration, this can only be because they knew what will happend =D>

This is not an insult but a compliment
I think it has something to do with the nature of the circuit too.... its low downforce not because the engineers don't want downforce but because they want lesser drag.... so cleaner the body and the floor lesser the drag... so may be they planned it all along....
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Gridlock wrote:You need to work on your compliments...
why, good teams always had some illegal stuff on their cars, but when others start complaining they remove them, like nothing ever happend. even if they won a race on that configuration, that don't matter. they will try something new, and same process will continue. if they can continue till end of championship season in this stuff they will be champions, unlike mclaren and other who complaining...

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Gridlock wrote:You need to work on your compliments...
why, good teams always had some illegal stuff on their cars, but when others start complaining they remove them, like nothing ever happend. even if they won a race on that configuration, that don't matter. they will try something new, and same process will continue. if they can continue till end of championship season in this stuff they will be champions, unlike mclaren and other who complaining...

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Neno wrote:
Gridlock wrote:Dr Marko:
"We had not planned to use this floor in Montreal anyway," Marko said. "We had prepared a different configuration using a flat version of the floor. Therefore we do not need to modify the cars in Canada."
only cheaters can prepare in advance floor configuration, this can only be because they knew what will happend =D>

This is not an insult but a compliment
lmao =D> =D>
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Neno wrote:
Gridlock wrote:Dr Marko:
"We had not planned to use this floor in Montreal anyway," Marko said. "We had prepared a different configuration using a flat version of the floor. Therefore we do not need to modify the cars in Canada."
only cheaters can prepare in advance floor configuration, this can only be because they knew what will happend =D>

This is not an insult but a compliment
its not cheating if it isnt illegal when done. Thats like arresting someone having done 50 in what was a 50 zone but is now a 30 zone

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its not cheating if it isnt illegal when done. Thats like arresting someone having done 50 in what was a 50 zone but is now a 30 zone.


All he is saying is that red bull MOST LIKELY went ahead and designed a new floor because they knew their old floor didn't have a good chance of being legal after the hearing.
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Gridlock wrote: its not cheating if it isnt illegal when done. Thats like arresting someone having done 50 in what was a 50 zone but is now a 30 zone
if they wanted from beginning that zone would be 30. this is like you driving 150 in village, but there is no sign and you think you can do whatever you want, even if you knew that 30 is limit #-o

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First reports from Montreal are that RB still have the holes on the floor but with small gaps like Ferrari & Sauber.