beelsebob wrote:Ray wrote:
To compare the two is utter stupidity.
To compare one stupid action to another stupid action is stupid? I guess two wrongs don't make a right, but really, Alonso started his career doing pretty dumb things.
He did make some dumb mistakes. Taking out multiple cars, multiple times was not one of them. I don't disagree Alonso has done some stupid things in his early days, Grojean has done more of them with more severe consequences
for other drivers. Making mistakes is one thing, having your boneheaded moves affect others is entirely different. Look at Maldonado. Do you think that anyone would hate him as much if all he did was take himself out? Of course not. When your stupidity directly impacts other racers the circumstances for criticism change completely.
beelsebob wrote:Ray wrote:Grosjean needs to take his dumbass back to GP2 and learn how to not crash into other people on the start. Who were the people that said Kimi was going to be threatened by him again? The only threat he poses is crashing into Kimi and taking him out.
Note – I'm not trying to assert that Grosjean's actions in spa were sane, nor that his actions over the year have been... But, trying to assert that Alonso (or in fact any of the other top drivers) didn't do anything utterly retarded in their early years in F1 is nuts.
I'm not saying any of the other drivers didn't make mistakes, I'd appreciate if you'd quit associating me with things I didn't say. Look at Raikkonen, Alonso, and even Fisi. Were they know for crashing into other people on a regular basis in their early careers? NO. So comparing the early career of Alonso to that of Grosjean is asinine. Grosjean has made himself into a battering ram, Alonso was never like that. He made mistakes, but he wasn't plowing through the field like his throttle was stuck. Make the mistake once, shame on you. Make it twice, and worse the second time around, your ass needs to sit from the sidelines and watch everyone else do it. Saying "it's not right to criticize because everyone has to start somewhere" is utter stupidity. Then trying to cast a shadow on Alonso because he made mistakes in his early career is lunacy. Alonso
never made a dumbass move like that, he never wiped out two rows of cars and the championship leader in one fell swoop. He has more than enough reason to be upset, and all he actually said was he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Why Cam went on a tangent jumping on Alonso makes no sense.
