2013 United States Grand Prix

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Vasconia
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Hulk will not race with Lotus, he prefers to stay in the same team for the last two races.

I would like to see an interesting battle between two teams/drivers once again but this American GP will see anothe majestic victory for Vettel if something strange doesnt happen.

Anyway I expect to see a competitive Hamilton here and a faster Ferrari, but Alonso will not be at 100% due to his his muscular problems.

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fritticaldi
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Heikki Kovalainen in at Lotus.

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Juzh
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Last's year GP onboard mix while we wait for FPs to begin. For entertainment purposes only :!:

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So another Finn in the Lotus, hopefully this Finn can bring the team some stability. Sorry I had to.
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raymondu999
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godlameroso wrote:So another Finn in the Lotus, hopefully this Finn can bring the team some stability. Sorry I had to.
Did the last one generate unwanted vortices?
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Hail22
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New Chassis on the way for Lewis Hamilton after two large cracks were identified:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/form ... 8--f1.html
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Hail22 wrote:New Chassis on the way for Lewis Hamilton after two large cracks were identified:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/form ... 8--f1.html
"new chassis" is generally code for "placebo" in F1, such as Raikkonen pre-Spa 09 and Vettel post-Monaco 2010, but given the circumstances of Lewis banging the T3 (or was it T4?) kerbing at Abu Dhabi, and snapping his rear wishbone in qualifying, I actually think (for the first time ever) that "new chassis to replace damaged one" could actually be true.
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Vasconia
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raymondu999 wrote:
Hail22 wrote:New Chassis on the way for Lewis Hamilton after two large cracks were identified:

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/form ... 8--f1.html
"new chassis" is generally code for "placebo" in F1, such as Raikkonen pre-Spa 09 and Vettel post-Monaco 2010, but given the circumstances of Lewis banging the T3 (or was it T4?) kerbing at Abu Dhabi, and snapping his rear wishbone in qualifying, I actually think (for the first time ever) that "new chassis to replace damaged one" could actually be true.
Even if it is true it will be a necessary "placebo" to improve his performance in the last two races.

The race needs a competitive Hamilton, and I hope he will finally do a good start, because when he has the opportunity to attack he always disappoint me with awful starts.

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Vasconia wrote:
Even if it is true it will be a necessary "placebo" to improve his performance in the last two races.

The race needs a competitive Hamilton, and I hope he will finally do a good start, because when he has the opportunity to attack he always disappoint me with awful starts.
He had 3 super starts in the last 3 races. The starts aren't his main problem, it's more like he's losing out to the others throughout the first lap, especially on the first proper straight.

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raymondu999 wrote:"new chassis" is generally code for "placebo" in F1,
And the evidence for this claim can be found where?
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

And what made you think this was real and not others?
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Helios wrote:
Vasconia wrote:
Even if it is true it will be a necessary "placebo" to improve his performance in the last two races.

The race needs a competitive Hamilton, and I hope he will finally do a good start, because when he has the opportunity to attack he always disappoint me with awful starts.
He had 3 super starts in the last 3 races. The starts aren't his main problem, it's more like he's losing out to the others throughout the first lap, especially on the first proper straight.
Abu Dhabi & Korea he got pinched at T1, India he got it all wrong at T2. C'est la vie.

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Vasconia
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But when he qualifies second and he can attack Vettel he always make a bad start, Nico in the same position has put Vettel under some pressure. So I prefer if Nico qualifies ahead of Lewis.

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SectorOne wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:"new chassis" is generally code for "placebo" in F1,
And the evidence for this claim can be found where?
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

And what made you think this was real and not others?

To compare two examples, I think in April Grosjean had a new chassis to help improve his form, although no defects were found to my kowledge with the old chassis, i.e placebo. Conversely Hamilton's is being replaced after cracks were found in it, i.e rubber ducked.
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SectorOne
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Hopefully that red flag does not mean scrapping the whole session. Just post-poned.

simieski wrote:
SectorOne wrote:
raymondu999 wrote:"new chassis" is generally code for "placebo" in F1,
And the evidence for this claim can be found where?
extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

And what made you think this was real and not others?

To compare two examples, I think in April Grosjean had a new chassis to help improve his form, although no defects were found to my kowledge with the old chassis, i.e placebo. Conversely Hamilton's is being replaced after cracks were found in it, i.e rubber ducked.
But then you have a distinct difference. Did Lotus claim his chassis was broken?
And if they did, what evidence supports that it wasn´t.
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