what a joke 
maybe because there is scarcity of fuel in the worldclipsy1H wrote:like i said few days ago... V6's sounds like my popcorn in cooking process. Even Bernie agree with this .... this change is one of the worst move in history of this championship.
There's no real reason for this change.... in a premium class like F1, you don't come with this stupidity "Saving Fuel is the reason" or "1.6 it's the future"
They spent 500 millions during 1 year but They want to save fuel
Almost exactly my thoughts. But let's just wait for all 22 screaming on the grid for final judgment.NowyszRacing6 wrote:To me, f1 has always immediately brought to mind the sound of super high pitched, high revving engines, one that sounds like nothing else. The new engines sound better than i thought they would, but they're not as distinctive and cool as the v8, which to me is sad. These are like a better version of an indycar sound
I posted in the intercooler thread power curves for the Cosworth V6: http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 42#p478542OrangeArrows wrote:(Off topic) Can someone tells the correct power output? Some say it's 550 hp others 600 hp and a few said 650 hp. It's not clear.
rscsr wrote:Just for the sake of keeping with actual data. Here are some charts from the Cosworth V8 and V6. Taken from the Race Engine Technology #72 and #73. (That magazine is really worth reading).Blanchimont wrote:Your calculations seem to be correct, power depends on the maximum fuel flow allowed for 2014.mrluke wrote:I dont have any information on the power curve of the old V8 but I expect it to be very peaky and to make peak torque somewhere around 16-18krpm this gives about 230ftlbs of torque. I would suggest that in the 6-12krpm range its going to be making an awful lot less torque whereas the v6 is making about 300ftlbs.
But why do you compare the torque of the 2013 engine at 16-18k with the torque of the 2014 engine at 6-12k without multiplying with the gear ratio?
Power Curves for the Cosworth CA (V8):
Power Curves comparison of the V8 and V6 (forecast):
relative fuel consumption of the V6:
P.S.: I'm Sorry for the crappy picture quality, I had to take a photo with my mobile phone and the paper is really shiny.
I'm not exactly sure I'd look to Bernie to back up my argument. Bernie missed stated the point. The point is for the engine manufacturers to develop technology that translates to everyday drivers that will save on gas while giving more power, not so that the teams can be more green. I like the sounds of the new turbo engines. I like the farts and belches they produce but then again, I'd be quite happy seeing anti-lags on the cars also. Personally I am most excited for the 2014 season. This resetting of the rules gives lower budget teams more opportunity to compete even if only for a season or two. Add that to the fact that Honda will be coming back in 2015 brings more options to the table. I am really hoping to see Williams tug a little harder on the rope this year, I am interested to see how Red Bull deals with adversity. All in all, this season may very well give all the people that have been complaining for the last 3-4 years exactly what they were asking for, even if it may sound differently than they had hoped for.clipsy1H wrote:like i said few days ago... V6's sounds like my popcorn in cooking process. Even Bernie agree with this .... this change is one of the worst move in history of this championship.
There's no real reason for this change.... in a premium class like F1, you don't come with this stupidity "Saving Fuel is the reason" or "1.6 it's the future"
They spent 500 millions during 1 year but They want to save fuel
