World Endurance Championship 2015

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Nissan GT-R Nismo 2MJ
Audi R-18 4MJ
Toyota TS040 6MJ
Porsche 919 8MJ

Talking about variety, also they all use different technique to recover kinetic energy. Like last year i will be watching the races on TV. We got some great and dramatic racing last year. Can't wait for Le Mans.
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kooleracer wrote:Nissan GT-R Nismo 2MJ
Audi R-18 4MJ
Toyota TS040 6MJ
Porsche 919 8MJ

Talking about variety, also they all use different technique to recover kinetic energy. Like last year i will be watching the races on TV. We got some great and dramatic racing last year. Can't wait for Le Mans.
As for i know Nissan dosnt annouce the officiall MJ class yet...

So where you get this from? Source?
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wesley123 wrote: Fairly little changes for the Toyota, I don't think they are showing their full package just yet.
This is what Autosport reported:
Toyota will remain in the six megajoule class in its bid to defend its World Endurance Championship titles with a revised version of last year's TS040 HYBRID.

The Japanese manufacturer had evaluated moving up to the top hybrid sub-class of 8MJ, but has opted to stay in the lower division with what it describes as "enhanced" versions of its energy-retrieval systems.

Gallery: Toyota launches 2015 LMP1 contender

This includes an uprated version of its supercapacitor energy-storage system, which Toyota has retained rather than swapping to batteries.

Toyota's Hisatake Murata, who leads development of the hybrid systems in Japan, explained that the revised Toyota would "achieve the maximum hybrid energy more consistently than last season.

"We fully expect to see a performance improvement from the hybrid system, especially over race distances, and at every circuit," he said.

The 2015-specification TS040 has been significantly reworked, according to Toyota Motorsport GmbH technical director Pascal Vasselon.

"The update car is no revolution, but it's an evolution almost everywhere," he said.

"It looks like it is from the same family; nevertheless we have redesigned roughly 80 per cent of the parts."

The second-generation TS040 has updated aerodynamics and a new front end including the crash structure, as well as revised suspension to optimise tyre usage and additional weight saving.

Toyota has again produced high and low-downforce aerodynamic packages for the TS040 and will run both during this week's two-day official WEC test at Paul Ricard.
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joseff wrote:Interesting how Toyota chooses the inboard rear BHH option. Last year's 919 started with that BHH position, but they found the top position more efficient, and switched accordingly.
New to WEC, what do you mean by BHH?

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RicME85 wrote:
New to WEC, what do you mean by BHH?

Big Honking Holes.

Refers to the holes on top of the front/rear fenders. I think they were introduced back in 2012 but it's been so long I cannot remember if that is correct.

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Here you go from Mulsanne's Corner: http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newssept11.html
10.19.11

Bulletin 11-19, issued back in August, called for an 60% increase in the front fender louver area as well as a 100 cm^2 louver patch over each rear fender. With a little investigating we now understand 11-19 has been superseded by 11-22 which is calling for openings of 1000 cm^2 over each front and rear fender. Yes, that's 1000 cm^2 for each fender. We've also been told that a minimum opening of 20 cm x 25 cm must be positioned over the each wheel centerline, with the area difference placed as needed.

Now the purpose of the 1000 cm^2 openings is to reduce lift in sudden yaw incidents, and by all accounts they do work in that situation. But we're also told that the immediate effect of the openings is an approximately 2.5% forward balance shift coupled with a large increase in pitch sensitivity. In essence the opening up of the bodywork allows the front diffuser to work better, which sounds like a positive thing on the face of it. But a properly designed diffuser manages its downforce generation and mitigates pitch sensitivity. Downforce gains are seen across all ride heights, but are said to be "huge" at lower ride heights. And what gains the rear openings make in reducing lift over the fenders are offset by the airflow disruption to the rear wing. There's also a net increase in drag. The 2.5% forward balance shift can be rebalanced with more rear wing, but with the added effect of increasing drag further. Thus the cumulative effects of the openings is to reduce aero efficiency with the unintended consequence of a large increase in pitch sensitivity.

Furthermore, we've been told that Bulletin 11-22 isn't a proposal, but a done deal for 2012. So, I think it appropriate to christen the holes as...naturally, Big Honking Holes.
If you are new to WEC check this site out. http://www.mulsannescorner.com/ Lots of info there.

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Porsche 4 secs a lap faster than last year in testing. Of course in testing they can forget the fuel flow regulations if they want to.

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TzeiTzei wrote:Porsche 4 secs a lap faster than last year in testing. Of course in testing they can forget the fuel flow regulations if they want to.
It begs the question of why would they bother testing voiding the fuel flow limit?

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Time scale for LeMans looks very short for Nissan, if they even go there they will probably use it as a real-life test for next year. What is difficult to see in testing is how fast the team is pushing, if the car is in a legal form, and so on.

I love the concept but I said I am not fully sure about it. These channels are massive friction drag producers, which is what the team is trying to avoid, but let's see.

Porsche armada colours for LeMans:

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And picture of the Paul-Ricard shakedown:

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Cold Fussion wrote:
TzeiTzei wrote:Porsche 4 secs a lap faster than last year in testing. Of course in testing they can forget the fuel flow regulations if they want to.
It begs the question of why would they bother testing voiding the fuel flow limit?
They probably wouldn't. Just thought it was worth remembering.

Porsche had great single lap speed and very good top speeds. Audi's long stints looked really good, but they were the slowest on the straights. Not that far behind Toyota though. The Toyotas were probably full of sand.

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Cold Fussion wrote:
TzeiTzei wrote:Porsche 4 secs a lap faster than last year in testing. Of course in testing they can forget the fuel flow regulations if they want to.
It begs the question of why would they bother testing voiding the fuel flow limit?
if it means they can push the car harder and beat the sh*t out of it more for durability testing, they'd do it.

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ian_s wrote:
Cold Fussion wrote:
TzeiTzei wrote:Porsche 4 secs a lap faster than last year in testing. Of course in testing they can forget the fuel flow regulations if they want to.
It begs the question of why would they bother testing voiding the fuel flow limit?
if it means they can push the car harder and beat the sh*t out of it more for durability testing, they'd do it.
Indeed!

1) Start testing with a strong pace and make miles until the car breaks. Then analyze what has caused the car to break.
2) Start testing with Quali pace and keep on pushing until the car breaks. Then analyze what has caused the car to break.
3) Repeat the previous 2 scenario's until the quality has reached the acceptance rate.

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WaikeCU wrote:Indeed!

1) Start testing with a strong pace and make miles until the car breaks. Then analyze what has caused the car to break.
2) Start testing with Quali pace and keep on pushing until the car breaks. Then analyze what has caused the car to break.
3) Repeat the previous 2 scenario's until the quality has reached the acceptance rate.
Porsche had already done almost 30 000km of testing before the Prologue. They have probably tested those things already. But anyway, those were some seriously fast laptimes. If they take 4 seconds out of laptimes in Silverstone that would mean a pole time in 1.38s. Getting closer to the tail end of F1.

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Fox Sports to air entire 2015 FIA World Endurance Championship
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/04/03/fox- ... mpionship/

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So who's going to Silverstone? I'll be there!