"Crashtor?" Madonado worst diver ever?

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/32275593


Is pastor the worst Driver or unluky? Is he costing Lotus more then he brings in i mean how much does it cost to build a brand new car every GP for Pastor even if he does bring in over 30million. How much longer can he stay in F1?
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I wouldn't call him that bad. IMO he has become a bit of the scapegoat - you know, the kid at school who just received a lot of flack and everytime he did something remotely stupid, everyone would pick on him because it was popular to do so. Pastor fits that bill nicely.

At the same though, he is a race winner even if that's easily forgotten and IMO his win showed that he does have very good pace and race craft. He is just a very agressive driver - for good and for worse. Perhaps most of the time, he tends to overdrive the car, be too agressive which gets him into trouble, causes (avoidable) incidents, but at the same time, it is also what makes him quick when it does work out. Unfortunately for him, he is in a midfield car, so it will always be difficult to show his true pace and skill.

Just my 2 cents.
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Diver? :roll:

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He has stupid and unnecessary crashes but is too fast to be the worst driver ever. I think that title (besides the odd paying drivers or clowns turning up sometimes) has to go to Inoue (being hit by the medical car is something genuine amazing) or Badoer (for crashing in Parc Ferme).

I think Maldonado watched "Days of Thunder" too many times as a kid and thinks he's Cole Trickle (Go out and hit the pace car, why? because thats the only car you haven't bumped into yet)

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I think he's definitively up there with the worst drivers ever. But not only due to his mistakes.

If you take in account how much money his sponsors have invested in his carreer and the amount of single seater experience he has, it's mental to see all his mistakes and errors. In China for example, he overshot the pitlane entry 1x during FP and 1x during the race. You don't make those mistakes, after 12 years of single seater experience, if you're a good driver.

In some races there are some 'flashes' of quality driving, but in most cases it's just counting down the laps until the 'Maldonado-moment' occurs. I do agree he's had a lot bad luck with Lotus, but still...
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Worst driver to win a race possibly.
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xDama wrote: In China for example, he overshot the pitlane entry 1x during FP and 1x during the race. You don't make those mistakes, after 12 years of single seater experience, if you're a good driver.
ahem - Hamilton 07? Admittedly his team left him out until his tyres were worn down to the carcass.

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George-Jung wrote:Diver? :roll:
It's an amusingly apt typo. In football (soccer) a 'diver' is someone who falls to the floor at the slightest contact, sometimes imagined contact. A bit like Maldonado's talent for contact and imagined spaces.

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The Beeb ran a very similar story on their website recently ... A nice little chronicle of disasters that have befallen Pastor.

Its funny how they conveniently forgot to mention the marshall he nearly killed at Monaco in GP2 ... the one his rich daddy had to dig deep to make go away so Pastor didn't get banned for life.

But it would probably make him less inclined to give interviews to Auntie should the mention Monaco.

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SilverArrow10 wrote:Worst driver to win a race possibly.
I actually rather have Crashtor in my car than Kova or Heidfeld to be honest.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
SilverArrow10 wrote:Worst driver to win a race possibly.
I actually rather have Crashtor in my car than Kova or Heidfeld to be honest.
Heidfeld didn't win one ;) and I would much rather have kubica if you mean him!!
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SilverArrow10 wrote:
PlatinumZealot wrote:
SilverArrow10 wrote:Worst driver to win a race possibly.
I actually rather have Crashtor in my car than Kova or Heidfeld to be honest.
Heidfeld didn't win one ;) and I would much rather have kubica if you mean him!!
I think he's talking of Heikki Kovalainen

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I'd say yes, but there MUST have been someone who was worse.
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There have been far worse drivers than him, but he seems to crash in the most spectacular and stupid way he can find. The crash with Gutierrez comes to mind or when he crashed entering the pits.