2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Hamilton vs Vettel incident

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:08
A very sad and sorry state of affairs in F1 these days. The safety car being used as a pawn to spice up a normally dull race leads to chaos. Then a driver clearly uses his car as a weapon, and gets a slap on the wrist. The lead drive pits for safety reasons and then at the same time the dangerous driver gets a penalty that just happens to bring him out next to his rival...

This isn't pure racing, this a circus act. Utter utter trash. Without free to air coverage after 2018 this sport is finished.
Bit of an exaggeration, if you look at the Replay, you see in his anger he gets next to Hamilton and raises his fist, as that happens the car veers into Hamilton accidentally. So the penalty he got was enough. Hamilton should have got one for brake checking Seb.

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:26
fabian77 wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:24
Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:08
A very sad and sorry state of affairs in F1 these days. The safety car being used as a pawn to spice up a normally dull race leads to chaos. Then a driver clearly uses his car as a weapon, and gets a slap on the wrist. The lead drive pits for safety reasons and then at the same time the dangerous driver gets a penalty that just happens to bring him out next to his rival...

This isn't pure racing, this a circus act. Utter utter trash. Without free to air coverage after 2018 this sport is finished.
Bit of an exaggeration, if you look at the Replay, you see in his anger he gets next to Hamilton and raises his fist, as that happens the car veers into Hamilton accidentally. So the penalty he got was enough. Hamilton should have got one for brake checking Seb.
Can you send me the telemetry you have showing Hamilton braked?
It was shown on live tv, in case you missed the race.

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Vettel got greedy behind Hamilton. Look at Ocon who was right behind Vettel, the newbee had the presence of mind to keep safe distance.

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:25
On public roads, dangerous driving comes with a mandatory 1 year ban with an extended retest, and the chance of a custodial sentence.
On Public roads we also don't drive across lanes to make sure we "hit the apex" so no need to over react.
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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Juzh wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:26
Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:26

Can you send me the telemetry you have showing Hamilton braked?
It was shown on live tv, in case you missed the race.
Can you send me a screenshot of the telemetry, I missed it.

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Juzh wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:22
NathanOlder wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:19
The audio from Lewis onboard sounded like he never accelerated and he didn't slow down. Vettel should have got a 10 second time penalty for causing a collision. And then a DQ for dangerous driving.
Except it's quite clear hamilton braked just after the apex, so it's potentially dangerous driving from him.
So you cant use the brake pedal to try and put heat into the brakes and tyres ???
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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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British media in complete melt-down and does not like a German drive. Ha-ha-ha, this brings memories.
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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:25
On public roads, dangerous driving comes with a mandatory 1 year ban with an extended retest, and the chance of a custodial sentence.
On public roads you get the same if you drive with an hand on the headrest at 300km/h or if you brake in the highway till 50km/h just to see if someone bump you from behind.

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Vettel didnt crashed on purpose on Hamilton. Vettel raised his left hand and had too much pressure at his right hand which made the wheel turn right and he couldn't fix it anymore, which made him hit Hamilton on the wheels( :twisted: )
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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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10 seconds panalty for intentionally running into the car in front? During safety car?

Is there anything worse you can do during a formula 1 race? Okay, maybe driving in the wrong direction...

Sorry. I like Vettel. But intentionally running into the car in front is must be disqualification!
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DVB wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:28
Vettel didnt crashed on purpose on Hamilton. Vettel raised his left hand and had too much pressure at his right hand which made the wheel turn right and he couldn't fix it anymore, which made him hit Hamilton on the wheels( :twisted: )
Have you ever driven a real car? When you change gear, does the car suddenly turn right because you only have one hand on the wheel?

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Juzh wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:26
Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:25
On public roads, dangerous driving comes with a mandatory 1 year ban with an extended retest, and the chance of a custodial sentence.
Let the hate flow trough you.
You can talk lol
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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:26
fabian77 wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:24
Diesel wrote:
25 Jun 2017, 17:08
A very sad and sorry state of affairs in F1 these days. The safety car being used as a pawn to spice up a normally dull race leads to chaos. Then a driver clearly uses his car as a weapon, and gets a slap on the wrist. The lead drive pits for safety reasons and then at the same time the dangerous driver gets a penalty that just happens to bring him out next to his rival...

This isn't pure racing, this a circus act. Utter utter trash. Without free to air coverage after 2018 this sport is finished.
Bit of an exaggeration, if you look at the Replay, you see in his anger he gets next to Hamilton and raises his fist, as that happens the car veers into Hamilton accidentally. So the penalty he got was enough. Hamilton should have got one for brake checking Seb.


Can you send me the telemetry you have showing Hamilton braked?
Yes because I have live Mercedes Telemetry on my computer :roll: :roll: :roll:

As said it was shown on a replay on tv but as always Sky jumps to Lewis' defense as he never does anything wrong.

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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Baku, 23-25 June

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Why would Vettel intentionally ride into the back of Lewis? Was there anything for him to gain?
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Re: 2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Hamilton vs Vettel incident

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10 seconds panalty for intentionally running into the car in front? During safety car?

Is there anything worse you can do during a formula 1 race? Okay, maybe driving in the wrong direction...

Sorry. I like Vettel. But intentionally running into the car in front is must be disqualification!
No discussion!