2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Bill wrote:
08 May 2023, 08:40
mendis wrote:
08 May 2023, 05:39
cplchanb wrote:
08 May 2023, 04:50

Perez had a contract at racing point for 2020 as well.... :?
Which was honoured and he drove for RP. He didn't get a new contract for 2021 at RP, but got one at RB.
ferrari was faster than redbull last year with these regulation so its no true that no one can get near redbull.ferrari need to improve their tire wear then we will see were their pace is.if you have an efficient pu you can carry less fuel thats part of redbull advantage that when Brawn drew these regulation he overlooked that the pu still play a massive role in deciding who wins.Aston martin has a car good on tires and over one lap ,i think they are being let down by pu
RB won 17 out of 22 races. Ferrari was not faster than Red Bull. That's rewriting history.

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Re: 2023 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 05 - 07

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Impressive performance from Verstappen today. That double overtake on lap 9 was stylish.

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Long long time ago, when a car entered the pitlane at Monaco there was a horn notifying everyone. Maybe F1 should bring it back.

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Absolute turd of a season. Thought last year was bad, but F1 dropping an awfully bad stinker this year. Tight Imola, and the borefests of Barcelona & Monaco to come. I know the RB is dominant, but it really is an awfully bad calendar, especially in terms of the quality of tracks. Uninspiring. Uneventful. Dire

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DGP123 wrote:
08 May 2023, 10:26
Absolute turd of a season. Thought last year was bad, but F1 dropping an awfully bad stinker this year. Tight Imola, and the borefests of Barcelona & Monaco to come. I know the RB is dominant, but it really is an awfully bad calendar, especially in terms of the quality of tracks. Uninspiring. Uneventful. Dire
Couldn’t have put it better myself.

The dominance is one thing, but can happen regularly in each era of tech regs so is not new.

The worst part of all is watching these massive boat-sized cars looking clumsy and unresponsive under ground effect regs, the pathetic FOM TV coverage zooming in on sponsors gives us zero feeling of true speed or sound, a total lack of testing time for anyone to truly catch up to the front runners in development, and last but not least the pathetic DRS-laden, push button overtake era that has destroyed the art of defending as a car in front.

I’m totally disillusioned with it - I don’t think we’ve changed for the better at all.

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Mansell89 wrote:
08 May 2023, 10:41
DGP123 wrote:
08 May 2023, 10:26
Absolute turd of a season. Thought last year was bad, but F1 dropping an awfully bad stinker this year. Tight Imola, and the borefests of Barcelona & Monaco to come. I know the RB is dominant, but it really is an awfully bad calendar, especially in terms of the quality of tracks. Uninspiring. Uneventful. Dire
Couldn’t have put it better myself.

The dominance is one thing, but can happen regularly in each era of tech regs so is not new.

The worst part of all is watching these massive boat-sized cars looking clumsy and unresponsive under ground effect regs, the pathetic FOM TV coverage zooming in on sponsors gives us zero feeling of true speed or sound, a total lack of testing time for anyone to truly catch up to the front runners in development, and last but not least the pathetic DRS-laden, push button overtake era that has destroyed the art of defending as a car in front.

I’m totally disillusioned with it - I don’t think we’ve changed for the better at all.
Feel like yesterday the TV direction kinda let down the race a bit. There was quite a few instances where overtakes were happening in the background of shots

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Andres125sx wrote:
08 May 2023, 08:25
NAPI10 wrote:
07 May 2023, 22:51
Alonso watching race from his cockpit now :lol: :lol: :lol:
Amazing guy, how on earth can he watch the screens from the cockpit? :wtf:
He was probably watching a stream on his phone 'cos he was bored. :mrgreen:
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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Ben1980 wrote:
07 May 2023, 22:40
Can we just give RB and Max the title. And skip the season. Think it would be a good season without them.
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Did you say the same thing back then when Mercedes were on the podium time after time after time for several years
with an 1 - 2 and the atmosphere after the race in the cooldown room was horrible?!
Yesterday I enjoyed all the overtaking action throughout the field of many drivers and the relaxed, respectful , friendly atmosphere
in the cooldown room and great, festive atmosphere on the podium with overjoyed podium drivers. Alonso enjoyed the most!

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Wouter wrote:
08 May 2023, 11:33
Ben1980 wrote:
07 May 2023, 22:40
Can we just give RB and Max the title. And skip the season. Think it would be a good season without them.
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Did you say the same thing back then when Mercedes were on the podium time after time after time for several years
with an 1 - 2 and the atmosphere after the race in the cooldown room was horrible?!
Yesterday I enjoyed all the overtaking action throughout the field of many drivers and the relaxed, respectful , friendly atmosphere
in the cooldown room and great, festive atmosphere on the podium with overjoyed podium drivers. Alonso enjoyed the most!

Well, obviously. If you think dominant seasons are dull, why would I not think other dominant seasons are dull.

Though, the Rosberg vs Hamilton battles had sone spice, and that time Ferrari got involved for a bit was good. Even when Vetel and Webber had a ding done was decent.

But this is just very meh.

But its very tight below, and would ve much better without the RBs!

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Ben1980 wrote:
08 May 2023, 11:47

Well, obviously. If you think dominant seasons are dull, why would I not think other dominant seasons are dull.

Though, the Rosberg vs Hamilton battles had sone spice, and that time Ferrari got involved for a bit was good. Even when Vetel and Webber had a ding done was decent.

But this is just very meh.

But its very tight below, and would ve much better without the RBs!
Just focus on cars in position 3-20 then. Simple way.

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chrisc90 wrote:
08 May 2023, 11:53
Just focus on cars in position 3-20 then. Simple way.
Not much excitement there, either. Alonso usually bags third, Ferrari are crap, and then it’s just the snail Mercedes picking up any pieces. Stroll nowhere. McLaren nowhere. As for the rest, very little happening.

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DGP123 wrote:
08 May 2023, 11:58
chrisc90 wrote:
08 May 2023, 11:53
Just focus on cars in position 3-20 then. Simple way.
Not much excitement there, either. Alonso usually bags third, Ferrari are crap, and then it’s just the snail Mercedes picking up any pieces. Stroll nowhere. McLaren nowhere. As for the rest, very little happening.
Just about the same in any race series then.

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Choice is simple really. Stop watching what you don't like, moreso when you have no control over proceedings. Come back when things are to one's liking.

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I will always watch it, because that's the thing with live sport, you aren't always sure what will happen. Even if you think you know.

Then at the end of the race or event, you can decide if it was dull or not. Yesterday was not overly exciting. But tge strategy didn't really help, you either went long first or second. And everyone did 1 stop.

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chrisc90 wrote:
08 May 2023, 12:21
Big Tea wrote:
08 May 2023, 12:16

Seems to have confused the red bull team too, as they said they expected both their cars to be together with 3 laps remaining.
If thats what RB predicted, then their simulations are near enough scary accurate.
I thought they might box him after 35 or 37 laps as it was enough margin to get by Perez in 2 or 3 laps. It appeared they wanted to see if Max can overtake Perez in pits to avoid a face off. But Perez started pushing and their times stabilized to be almost equal. If they would have boxed Max by lap 40, he would have still breezed past Perez in quick time and would have finished with a bigger margin.