Aston Martin AMR24 Speculation Thread

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It's the start of the speculation



The big question is the possible switch to Pull-Rod. A lot of teams next year might make this switch and AMR24 has Mercedes rear suspension and gearbox so if W15 goes pull rod, AMR24 might too.
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Ashwinv16 wrote:
05 Dec 2023, 00:22
It's the start of the speculation



The big question is the possible switch to Pull-Rod. A lot of teams next year might make this switch and AMR24 has Mercedes rear suspension and gearbox so if W15 goes pull rod, AMR24 might too.
But Mercedes already have a pullrod rear suspension. Do you mean the switch to pushrod?

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Summary of last preseason: they published a very detailed interview with Eric Blandin in which, unusually, you could read a lot of interesting things. It was in January. The mood of it was clearly optimistic, they admitted they had some "smart innovations" up their sleeves, right trajectory and so on. It looked to be the kind of thing that indicated they were confident about the new car. Then came wind tunnel rumours, and then testing and expectations were very high.
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Seeing how this season has come through, AMR should be more conservative and should take MCL approach.
Field a basic car for early next year, carry on the R&D for some races and bring in a B spec.
Since same regulation being carried over to 2025, it seems a sensible approach.
Moreover, AMR can get better ideas from the field to be implemented on their B spec.

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B spec is only for teams who clearly made wrong decisions over the autumn/winter (McLaren).

I think the statement from McCullough says it all. They just need a better basis of the car, that works at nearly every track. They need a car like their driver ALO: not the best in 1 discpline, but 9/10 in every area. =D>

And what is crystal clear: all depends on how much usable DF you get from the floor.

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collindsilva wrote:
05 Dec 2023, 08:34
Seeing how this season has come through, AMR should be more conservative and should take MCL approach.
Field a basic car for early next year, carry on the R&D for some races and bring in a B spec.
Since same regulation being carried over to 2025, it seems a sensible approach.
Moreover, AMR can get better ideas from the field to be implemented on their B spec.
AMR had a good car early this past year and then started to claw back towards the end. They absolutely should shoot for a good car out of the gate as they are clearly capable.

Wasn't Mclaren's issue that they realized partway through development they went in the wrong direction and then had to change but didn't have the changes until midseason?
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dren wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 01:02
collindsilva wrote:
05 Dec 2023, 08:34
Seeing how this season has come through, AMR should be more conservative and should take MCL approach.
Field a basic car for early next year, carry on the R&D for some races and bring in a B spec.
Since same regulation being carried over to 2025, it seems a sensible approach.
Moreover, AMR can get better ideas from the field to be implemented on their B spec.
AMR had a good car early this past year and then started to claw back towards the end. They absolutely should shoot for a good car out of the gate as they are clearly capable.

Wasn't Mclaren's issue that they realized partway through development they went in the wrong direction and then had to change but didn't have the changes until midseason?
I agree on the 2nd part. How much of the early-season performance from AMR was coming from their 'tricks'?

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organic wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 01:47
dren wrote:
11 Dec 2023, 01:02
collindsilva wrote:
05 Dec 2023, 08:34
Seeing how this season has come through, AMR should be more conservative and should take MCL approach.
Field a basic car for early next year, carry on the R&D for some races and bring in a B spec.
Since same regulation being carried over to 2025, it seems a sensible approach.
Moreover, AMR can get better ideas from the field to be implemented on their B spec.
AMR had a good car early this past year and then started to claw back towards the end. They absolutely should shoot for a good car out of the gate as they are clearly capable.

Wasn't Mclaren's issue that they realized partway through development they went in the wrong direction and then had to change but didn't have the changes until midseason?
I agree on the 2nd part. How much of the early-season performance from AMR was coming from their 'tricks'?
It wasn't just about their "trick". So many other things happened what really confused them and made harder to understand the upgrades. I mean came the rules change in the Technical Directive and also they changed the tyres components to make it work in "wider" windows which definitely helped a lot of team like McLaren,Mercedes,Ferrari but Aston and Redbull didn't win with it nothing so is could look as the upgrades didn't work. The sprint weekends also was pain in their ass for sure. Luckily they tested a lot end of the season and they tested the Bahrain spec car also at Abudabi Pirelli and young drivers test. So they know what went wrong and how to make faster the car. Last few race they was fast,even Stroll was fast. I hope they change suspension, make tighter body work and most important they make a floor which really works.

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Yeah, their in season upgrade plan didn't mix well with the sprint races. They did seem to struggle to get a handle of the upgrades until late in the season.
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KimiRai wrote:
05 Dec 2023, 08:18
After a quick glance at the other threads from the leading teams, it seems that this is the one that raises the least speculation, so far.

Last preseason they published a very detailed interview with Eric Blandin in which, unusually, you could read a lot of interesting things. It was in January. The mood of it was clearly optimistic, they admitted they had some "smart innovations" up their sleeves, right trajectory and so on. It looked to be the kind of thing that indicated they were confident about the new car. Then came wind tunnel rumours, and then testing and expectations were very high.

Unless it's changed, one would expect them to publish an interview this winter too, I think
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Mike Krack: We did understand the car by the end of the season – but it would wrong to say we understood absolutely everything about the AMR23. We understood a great deal, we know what we want to do for 2024 and the direction we need to go in with next year's car – but that doesn't necessarily mean we're going to turn up at the season-opener in Bahrain next year and be fighting for the race win.

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Seems Mercedes aiming to narrow its gearbox like RB, how does it impact AMR, do they share the same gearbox...

https://formu1a.uno/f1-2024-quelle-evol ... -red-bull/

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collindsilva wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 13:27
Seems Mercedes aiming to narrow its gearbox like RB, how does it impact AMR, do they share the same gearbox...

https://formu1a.uno/f1-2024-quelle-evol ... -red-bull/
Yes amr use Mercedes' gearbox

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collindsilva wrote:
13 Dec 2023, 13:27
Seems Mercedes aiming to narrow its gearbox like RB, how does it impact AMR, do they share the same gearbox...

https://formu1a.uno/f1-2024-quelle-evol ... -red-bull/
"The W15 will have a very different, much more traditional chassis, and a more miniaturized transmission, which will also help Aston Martin to reduce those aerodynamic efficiency problems that affected both the Brackley car and the AMR23, unlike Williams which had designed a car with a body with very low aerodynamic resistance, but lacking aerodynamic load."