Would love to hear Max and Perez feedback.
Both were off colour today. I wonder if the track temperatures got to them and the nature of the circuit? Tyres, cooling, gearbox etc.. something's not right. Lewis hounding Perez.. in the dog of a W15.
I do think Max was also reluctant to push because he was happy to see his pal Norris win the the race.
Not a chance of Max doing that. Max ignore his own team to get an extra point for the fastest lap from his team mate, he has a ruthless attitude to winnng.
Norris is of no threat to Max..if Norris was a close second in the championship Max will not accept 2nd at any cost..Watto wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 04:32Not a chance of Max doing that. Max ignore his own team to get an extra point for the fastest lap from his team mate, he has a ruthless attitude to winnng.
Lando and the McLaren were just faster in the final stint on the hards.
Too early in the championshipCHT wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 05:06Norris is of no threat to Max..if Norris was a close second in the championship Max will not accept 2nd at any cost..
I don’t think perez touched max. He would have ended his race on turn 1 with the speed he was going at.ispano6 wrote:Max apparently had some damage from Perez from turn 1 and wing and floor damage from the bollard strike(s).
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen-cl ... ull-damage
Unless they have some data to back that up I tend to agree. I'm sure they had damage.dialtone wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 08:14I don’t think perez touched max. He would have ended his race on turn 1 with the speed he was going at.ispano6 wrote:Max apparently had some damage from Perez from turn 1 and wing and floor damage from the bollard strike(s).
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen-cl ... ull-damage
Sorry, but I do not know why this nonsense about a safety car is going in circles with complete nonsense arguments. The facts:TFSA wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 01:06The rules aren't the issue here. It's how they're employed in practice. Even with said rules in play, it was possible for Race Control to not have this happen.
First: Just because you "can" deploy it regardless of where the leader is, doesn't mean you should. You have other options, including deploying a VSC first, and then upgrading said VSC to a full Safety Car when the leader is approaching the end of his current lap.
Second: Even after they screwed it up initially, where the SC didn't catch the leading car, they were way too slow at allowing the cars by, so they could catch Norris. This resulted in several wasted laps that could have been used for racing, rather than just trotting around the track.
This was not well-managed at all.
'had some damage from perez' -> I think this is a cooked up hopium-copium idea from someone.ispano6 wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 06:41Max apparently had some damage from Perez from turn 1 and wing and floor damage from the bollard strike(s).
https://racingnews365.com/verstappen-cl ... ull-damage
Well, I'm happy for Lando too, but I'm not happy that we were robbed of the possible fight for the win by the race control.venkyhere wrote: ↑06 May 2024, 00:58Feel very happy for NOR. Deserves it. Has been on the bad side of luck for a very long time.
To all those Ferrari/RedBull/VER fans who are sulking and trying to find reasons why 'pure luck' is the sole reason for NOR win :
- yes, NOR would not have had it easy when trying to overtake Ferrari and Redbull in the straights, because McLaren configured their car with highest DF and lowest topspeed
- yes, the safety car pitstop was luck
- but there is no way to say that without safety car, NOR or PIA wouldn't have overtaken ferraris and Redbulls in green flag racing, despite their straight speed disadvantage. Their pace on H was consistently 0.4-0.5s faster than both those teams, even if it was roughly matched pace on M.
- just accept that McLaren can be now declared to have finally nailed the ground effect and their newest update is a testament to it. Their perennial problem of slow corner traction is solved, without sacrificing their medium and high-speed prowess.
- just accept that NOR drove brilliantly and in hindsight, what Mclaren learnt with their H stint in FP1 was valuable.
- just accept that Ferrari/RedBull went wrong with their calculation/extrapolation/sim/algorithms, on how the H would render the balance on their cars, just from M and S data. They might have gotten that right many times before; but on this track where it was tyre-lottery w.r.t grip, their guesstimates were wrong.
Teams converging into same pace after 3 yrs of development, in a regulation era where there isn't any powerunit differences - that's par for the course, isn't it ? McLaren and Ferrari have done brilliantly, to catch up with RedBull. It deserves applause, rather than sulking. If anything, it promises that 2024 wont be like 2023.
I get what you're trying to say.. But when you have to convince yourself or someone else of the fact that "its harder than it looks" and they are probably enjoying themselves.. then you're trying too hard and its probably not all that interesting. I don't mean this particular race, but the logic. I'm sure there are people sharpening a stick in the woods who are enjoying themselves but we don't tune in by the millions to watch them