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Re: 2017 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 14-16 July
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 14:15
by ChrisDanger
ClarkBT11 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 13:57
ChrisDanger wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 13:49
Multi21 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 11:39
It's not as if they plan to invent tearoffs for the windshields.
Why not? They have tearoffs for LMP cars, GTs, etc. It would be trivial to do so and stupid not to.
When do they get torn off, at the pitstop? A driver tears more than one of their visor during the race, would that be feasible?
I imagine it would work like any other race series. It's not like the screen gets totally opaque. If they can race in the rain they can race with a bit of oil and rubber flakes on the screen. LMP cars do long stints, passing a lot of traffic, and they don't fall off the road due to bad visibility from not being able to remove a tearoff. In fact, I was watching a race this year, it could've been the WEC at Silverstone, and there was one driver who turned on his wipers when it started raining at the end of his stint, and his screen was a gooey mess of smeared oil, yet still he did not crash. I think the F1 guys will be okay.
Re: 2017 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 14-16 July
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 14:18
by TAG
ChrisDanger wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 14:15
ClarkBT11 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 13:57
ChrisDanger wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 13:49
Why not? They have tearoffs for LMP cars, GTs, etc. It would be trivial to do so and stupid not to.
When do they get torn off, at the pitstop? A driver tears more than one of their visor during the race, would that be feasible?
I imagine it would work like any other race series. It's not like the screen gets totally opaque. If they can race in the rain they can race with a bit of oil and rubber flakes on the screen. LMP cars do long stints, passing a lot of traffic, and they don't fall off the road due to bad visibility from not being able to remove a tearoff. In fact, I was watching a race this year, it could've been the WEC at Silverstone, and there was one driver who turned on his wipers when it started raining at the end of his stint, and his screen was a gooey mess of smeared oil, yet still he did not crash. I think the F1 guys will be okay.
LMP cars do 30-40 minute stints or less and have dozens of tearoffs removed during the long races.
Re: 2017 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 14-16 July
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 15:14
by Coinage
TAG wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 14:18
ChrisDanger wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 14:15
ClarkBT11 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 13:57
When do they get torn off, at the pitstop? A driver tears more than one of their visor during the race, would that be feasible?
I imagine it would work like any other race series. It's not like the screen gets totally opaque. If they can race in the rain they can race with a bit of oil and rubber flakes on the screen. LMP cars do long stints, passing a lot of traffic, and they don't fall off the road due to bad visibility from not being able to remove a tearoff. In fact, I was watching a race this year, it could've been the WEC at Silverstone, and there was one driver who turned on his wipers when it started raining at the end of his stint, and his screen was a gooey mess of smeared oil, yet still he did not crash. I think the F1 guys will be okay.
LMP cars do 30-40 minute stints or less and have dozens of tearoffs removed during the long races.
So then a F1 car would be able to do half a race distance (~45 minutes) on a single tear off...
Re: The "Shield" to protect drivers?
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 18:05
by Morteza
This is how it looks like on the Ferrari:
Re: The "Shield" to protect drivers?
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 18:35
by Chubbs
I think it looks a lot better than the Halo. I could probably see people getting used to it quite quickly.
Re: The "Shield" to protect drivers?
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 18:38
by BanMeToo
It's not half bad.
Re: The "Shield" to protect drivers?
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 19:08
by Just_a_fan
BanMeToo wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 18:38
It's not half bad.
No, it's all bad.
Re: 2017 British Grand Prix - Silverstone, 14-16 July
Posted: 13 Jul 2017, 21:02
by ThumbsUp
F1NAC wrote: ↑13 Jul 2017, 08:21
I'm intetesting in seeing the shield
https://twitter.com/skysportsf1/status/ ... 3205713920
Re: The "Shield" cockpit protection device - 2017 evolution
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 08:58
by CriXus
It looks kind of odd on the car. The car is not design for it, instead, they should start from scratch design a whole new concept. I even do not mind fighter jet cockpit like, as long as a F1 car is the fastest racing car on the Earth.
Re: The "Shield" cockpit protection device - 2017 evolution
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 13:41
by i70q7m7ghw
Do we know if it helps deflect something like a wheel? I think this would have prevented Massa's accident back in 2009, but I'm not sure if it would take enough energy out of something like a wheel?
Re: The "Shield" cockpit protection device - 2017 evolution
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 13:54
by FW17
Total Failure
Shield not secured to the car hence vibrated a lot causing blurry vision to Vettel
Unlike the Aeroscreen which was quiet structural in its fitment the same was not done to the shield
I am sure it is going to be shelved now
Re: The "Shield" cockpit protection device - 2017 evolution
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 14:19
by bauc
FW17 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2017, 13:54
Total Failure
Shield not secured to the car hence vibrated a lot causing blurry vision to Vettel
Unlike the Aeroscreen which was quiet structural in its fitment the same was not done to the shield
I am sure it is going to be shelved now
Well not yet, full test is scheduled for Monza, with more teams and drivers testing
Re: The "Shield" cockpit protection device - 2017 evolution
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 15:39
by RicME85
Its just an extended version of aeroscreen from what I can see without the strengthening added around the top. I liked aeroscreen, therefore I like this.
Re: The "Shield" cockpit protection device - 2017 evolution
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 19:13
by Powy
Today in Silverstone Vettel said he didn't like the Shield. He felt a little dizzy because it distorts the view. The view was as if he was cross-eyed (
via AmuS).
Re: The "Shield" cockpit protection device - 2017 evolution
Posted: 14 Jul 2017, 19:26
by cooken
It's pathetic if that's the case. They seriously didn't even make enough effort to maintain optics? I would find that hard to believe.
Anyway the whole thing is complete self indulgent fappery. I want to see the risk analyses for all the concepts, and I'm sure none of them would come out as a net positive.