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Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 21:57
by BreezyRacer
tahadar wrote:the MP4/24 rear wing slot was quite interesting at singapore. there is plenty of room for innovation in that 75mm-wide legality box

I sure would like to see some CFD on one of those slots. I can see it reducing drag a bit I wonder what it does for DF?
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 22:18
by wesley123
probably keeps air attached or something like that.
For the mclaren slot it might make the wing less sensitive, but i think that is irrelevant for the regular slots
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Sep 2009, 23:40
by tahadar
allows you to run at higher angles of attack without seperation. check out the post by newbie on page 292 here:
http://forums.autosport.com/index.php?s ... tart=11640
along with this pic:
http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hi ... po_266.jpg
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 01 Oct 2009, 16:42
by Pedro
Singapore updates - experimental front wing and diffuser
McLaren tested new wing with totally new
end-plate in Singapore but did not use it in qualification or in race. (They tested this piece already in Valencia and at Spa I guess).
McLaren also used a new symmetrical rear
diffuser, replacing the previous asymmetrical design introduced at the Nurburgring.
They had also new floor. McLaren changed Hamilton's monocoque due to KERS cable problem. It was easier to change the monocoque than to repair it. So it was not because of performance reasons or new parts.
You can read more about aero updates here: http://www.f1news.cz/technika/33249-ino ... ni-kridla/
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 17:49
by bar555
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 02 Oct 2009, 17:51
by deus1066
They've got some new bargeboards for Suzuka, and they're continueing to use the new diffuser.
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 03 Oct 2009, 01:57
by deus1066
deus1066 wrote:They've got some new bargeboards for Suzuka, and they're continueing to use the new diffuser.

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 08 Oct 2009, 07:08
by Pedro
New deflectors in Suzuka
compared with previous version used in Singapore:
http://f1news.cz/technika/33338-zmeny-n ... -zbrojeni/
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 12 Oct 2009, 16:41
by bar555
GP SINGAPORE
Undergone changes from Monza
1.Nose cone camera winglets
2.A new front wing was tested
3.Minor changes to the floor
4.Exhaust outlets
5.Revised rear wing
6.Heavily modified diffuser
McLaren changed Hamilton's monocoque due to a KERS cable problem
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 05:25
by Ciro Pabón
bar555, I just want to say thanks again. The best threads on cars are all yours. I bet half the visitors come because of these threads, beautifully illustrated and straight to the point. I dare to think that if some team wants a truly good spotter, they should consider hiring you.
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 10:20
by xpensive
Can someone xplain the loophole in the rules that allows for the return of such deflectors and barge-boards? Scarbs?
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 12:03
by bazanaius
AFAIK the boxes within which overlapping surfaces are prohibited are defined relative to car surfaces. teams have got around this by shifting bits of the car (sidepods backwards for example) to creat unregulated space in which they can add dangly bits.
Anyone confirm?
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 12:43
by axle
bazanaius wrote:AFAIK the boxes within which overlapping surfaces are prohibited are defined relative to car surfaces. teams have got around this by shifting bits of the car (sidepods backwards for example) to creat unregulated space in which they can add dangly bits.
Anyone confirm?
Yep that's how I understand it too...
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 13 Oct 2009, 17:30
by wesley123
shifting the sidepods backwards is wrong i believe, the position of these are regulated becauce of driver protection. i believe these parts have to do with vieuws from certain positions and the body work at the sidepods length has to do something with the sidepods width i guess.