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Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 27 Oct 2009, 15:24
by Giblet
As our Moderator, Ciro, has attempted to point out, this thread is not for discussing anything but the technical development of the car.
Please listen, and let this post be a line in the sand, thanks.
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 28 Oct 2009, 21:37
by Ciro Pabón
Pu-leez. I have had two reports about this thread already. No more speculations, they will be moved or erased. Please, use the NEW THREAD button if you have the urge to explain why something else happened.
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 17:16
by Mikey_s
bar555 wrote:EXHAUSTS - SINGAPORE
DIFFUSER - SINGAPORE
FRONT BRAKES - SINGAPORE

looking at the bottom pic of the front brake assembly it seems there is a secodary air intake feeding air to the brake caliper... I haven't noticed any discussion of this in this, or other threads, (but accept I m ight have missed it!)... is this unique to Macca??
Also... there are a lot of sensors feeding through hthe upper wishbone - anyone care to speculate on what these are measuring... Temperature is a obvious candidate, wear of the disc/calipers another... but there seem to be planty of sensors there...
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 17:29
by razzmyth
Mikey_s wrote:Also... there are a lot of sensors feeding through hthe upper wishbone - anyone care to speculate on what these are measuring... Temperature is a obvious candidate, wear of the disc/calipers another... but there seem to be planty of sensors there...
I'm also curious as to what all the sensors are.
I’ve never noticed the adjustable Ackerman before, neat.
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 17:39
by compo
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 19:54
by Richard
Mikey_s wrote:looking at the bottom pic of the front brake assembly it seems there is a secodary air intake feeding air to the brake caliper... I haven't noticed any discussion of this in this, or other threads, (but accept I m ight have missed it!)... is this unique to Macca??
Oh yes, there's the big air scoop and below there is a little pencil thin periscope of an air duct. I wonnder what that is for.
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 29 Oct 2009, 20:05
by bar555
Mikey_s
This wing-like element with the horizontal hole helps to cool the brake calliper itself .It has been already illustrated in page 2 at the current thread (
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6599&start=15 ) . Toyota uses a similar concept reverted -L shaped winglet in the TF109 .
The idea is not new as Ferrari first introduced an additional brake cooling winglet-style element back in 2005
F2005
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 17:46
by speedsense
goony wrote:wheel speed brake wear and temp
if u can find sum pics of the mirrors we had thermal imaging cams in them for a time to check tyre temp on the go
goony
There would also be an receiver for a "pickup" of the internal tire air pressure located in this area, as it's transmitted by wireless through the wheel... the "accurate" range for the receiver is 2 feet unless that has been improved in recent years and can be put on the chassis, some 3.5 feet away.
I too would like to thank BAR555 for the great posts this year hopefully you will do the same next year.... great job!!
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 19:04
by bar555
speedsense wrote:
I too would like to thank BAR555 for the great posts this year hopefully you will do the same next year.... great job!!
thanks speedsense ,
The 2009 season is not yet over for me . I will continue working on the M4/24 technical evolution , enriching further this thead ( and similar threads as well ) .
As regards the 2010 season , i can not tell for sure whether i will do analogous topics or not .
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 19:26
by Mikey_s
bar,
I have no idea where you ge the pics or where you find the time to do what you do, but it is great and thanks for doing it.
Fantastic effort.
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 00:08
by Richard
Mikey_s wrote:bar,
I have no idea where you ge the pics or where you find the time to do what you do, but it is great and thanks for doing it.
Fantastic effort.
x 2
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 04:06
by TRICKLE69
richard_leeds wrote:Mikey_s wrote:bar,
I have no idea where you ge the pics or where you find the time to do what you do, but it is great and thanks for doing it.
Fantastic effort.
x 2
X3 Pics are unbelievable!!!
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 08 Nov 2009, 13:39
by bar555
EXHAUSTS - JAPAN
DIFFUSER - JAPAN
FRONT BRAKES - JAPAN

Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 09 Nov 2009, 15:40
by razzmyth
The brake rotor adapter plate is a slightly different design (thicker) and has 10 nuts instead of 6. Possibly higher braking loads in Japan?
Re: Mc Laren MP4/24 aero-mech development in 2009
Posted: 14 Dec 2009, 21:42
by bar555
GP of BRAZIL
Undergone changes from Japan
1.A modified front wing was tested but not finally used for race
2.Revised rear wing
3.Symmetricity to exhaust outlets was the choice for this race